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Quote: RHINO-MARK "P.s My opinion re-Mc.D is well known but i think GH needs questioning re-recruitment & retention this year he's "winged" it imo & it's back fired big time.'"


Absolutely agree. But his biggest mistake is backing the coach. Someone else would give input how to improve, rather than arrogantly sit back and relax and go with it. Probably why he does back him.

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spot on mark. recruitment has been awful. the pack is full of players miles over the hill.

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We were so pedestrian. maybe we need a warning sign "Beware slow players!" Is the tactic to reduce all pace from our attack so that Lilley appears moderately quick. His quickest movement was when he limped off the pitch at the end with a smacked face. Maybe we should nickname him Esiotrot? Cuthbertson with a new 2 year 2 in his back pocket shows no go forward against a lightweight Huddersfield pack. Cheque book time Gawry!! Stop being greedy and overcrowding the new Southstand and start spending on quality.

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Quote: tad rhino "cas had more out and looked great.the coach get plaudits when it's going well but it's never his fault when things go wrong. excuses excuses'"


I think you’ll find out on here the coach does not get the plaudits when we are doing well, it was the players coaching the team then.

Cas may have more out (Id like to see the evidence) but dod the lose players during the game, im not making excuses we were crap but to lay all the blame on the coach is not looking at the whole situation.

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Quote: tad rhino "cas had more out and looked great.the coach get plaudits when it's going well but it's never his fault when things go wrong. excuses excuses'"


Both sides had 8 out. But we should also count Galloway for Leeds who we have not replaced so in reality we were down 9. And Cas played a new half back signing who played a big part in their victory which offsets one of their missing pivots.

In your comparison you also choose not to mention 3 more serious injuries for Leeds during the game which affected the result and that Leeds have been without around 8 first teamers most weeks since the start of the season which has dulled the performance of the reserves and youngsters and overworked those few experienced players that have remained fit.

That is not to take anything away from an outstanding performance from Cas who caught Warrington having an off day. Neither does it excuse the high number of missed tackles from Leeds with 32 out of 43 misses coming from the younger players.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Both sides had 8 out. But we should also count Galloway for Leeds who we have not replaced so in reality we were down 9 '"


icon_biggrin.gif shouldn’t we also count Hardaker then? That’s how silly your point is there.

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you fail to mention cas looked organised and had shape and a game plan. we looked like a pub team who had been thrown together.injuries or not there is no excuse for lady night, or the other displays like it this season

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "P.s My opinion re-Mc.D is well known but i think GH needs questioning re-recruitment & retention this year he's "winged" it imo & it's back fired big time.'"


On the lack of recruitment we can agree

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Quote: Gotcha "

My point is factual and not silly at all. It is your response that is silly.

Fact: Galloway was in our squad at the start if the season and would have been a starting prop. He retired 3 games into the season and we have not replaced him so we have played without one of our starting props all season.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Both sides had 8 out. But we should also count Galloway for Leeds who we have not replaced so in reality we were down 9.'"


If we’re counting players who no longer play for the club, we were also missing Zak Hardaker, Denny Solomona , Daryl Clark (even worse, he was playing for the other team), Lee Crooks, Tawera Nikau and John Joyner.

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Quote: tad rhino "you fail to mention cas looked organised and had shape and a game plan. we looked like a pub team who had been thrown together.injuries or not there is no excuse for lady night, or the other displays like it this season'"


I did not publish a critique, merely pointed out your error.

Did you watch both games at the same time then? icon_wink.gif

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it's called sky plus. we have been an embarrassment at times this season. time for change

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "My point is factual and not silly at all. It is your response that is silly.

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Your point is pointless. Galloway dosnt play for us anymore. Cas didnt have garry lo, again, not worth mentioning in a who's got more missing debate, because he dosnt play for them any more either. Regardless of who wins the more injuries debate, its pretty close, whichever way you lean, whats not pretty close is the performances of the two teams without there missing players.

One team brings there backups into a well coached, organized, structured team with a very clear gameplan, which gives there backups every chance to succeed and play good rugby. The other team, us, brings its backups into an unorganized mess with nothing resembling a gameplan or an ounce of structure, giving the players very little help if any in the way of coaching.

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Injuries can be a valid reason for under performance, particularly those occurring during a game. However, we lost a few winnable games prior to the situation we are in now and have lost games we should have won with the players we did have on the pitch.

It really doesn’t escape the fact we look disorganised and clueless.
I have a lot of respect for BMcD but I really think it’s time he moved on. Bizarre selections, like leaving Parcell on the bench against Warrington so playing with no recognised hooker, really need to be called out.

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Not replacing Galloway has proved a costly mistake. The blame for that could be laid at the door of GH and BM but Galloway also shares some responsibility. He had a contract for this season and made it his intention to play on despite the injury setback. To then retire after the season had started left the club in a tough position to try and replace him. If the decision was made due to medical advice then I'm not sure anyone can be "blamed" .

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