It wasn't many years ago they tried to have two reserve games at full price!!

The game was £5 cheaper than a normal game, and the squad was announced last week.

The game has been the same level of intensity for many years, if you fork out every year expecting something different them you only have yourself to blame if you're unhappy

What patronising BS.
It's far from unreasonable to expect something that resembles an organised RL Team or that those taking part have a clue & actually give a flying one especially after last years farce.
Not one game in the corresponding past fixtures has resembled the low of todays nor has it ever been flippently dismissed as an opposed training run by the Coach.

I didn't have a problem with Macs press conference. I think people are looking for any opportunity to stick the boot in. This has been the theme from day one of his tenure.

But personally I would have thought that the club would have targeted this game as a statement of intent moving forward after last season. I would have had everyone available playing (Ward included). Obviously the club don't see it like that.

Hope yer all good down under mate!
Wrt Mc.D did you see his pre-match PC?
He basically said last years Boxing Day game "set the tone" for a poor year & that this year although it would still be a gauge for where we're at he was looking foreard to it as were the team more than hinting they wanted to lay a firm marker down early.
What was actually "served up" was a big turd sarnie no mayo then dismissed as a public training session so imo he deserves all the stick he gets wrt today & last year.

Stop talking sense.

To go back to the original topic, time for GH to go, absolutely categorically not. However if the question was, time for GH to step up and deliver some better quality players, playing under a new refreshed coaching regime, absolutely categorically yes.

I've heard there are some good kids in the U16's but realistically they are 5 years away so far too long to wait for. It's a shame to see the likes of Kallum Watkins going backwards due to the work he's having to do to cover for others deficiencies. 2017 promises to be a landmark year one way or the other.

Fully agree with the comments of Batley Rhino, we need to spend big and soon, and we need a change of direction on the coaching front. I think Mac has done a good job, but the whole thing needs a massive shake up, unless we fancy a trip to Odsal next year !!

That isn't true at all. The performance and intensity has dropped alarmingly over last couple of years. Not saying it was anything to write home about the previous couple of years to that, but it was certainly a lot more indicative of what you would expect, compared to last two.

This one more than any other though, considering the messages out of the club, and what was endured last season, you would have just expected at the very least, some level of performance to give some encouragement.

Completely agree Gotcha & exactly the point i've been trying to get across elsewhere.

this

Garry is not the same CEO that he was he could find decent players and entice big names to the club Furness Anderson carol buderis iro blackmoor kemp cliff Lyons glanville schofield crooks Hanley duneman many more with the money from the Wembleys grand finals wcc the elusive treble and the massive season ticket sales etc we seem to invest less and less in playing staff we can get away with a few cheap cap players but not the majority definite change in tack from gh to his early days it's not all down to the cap we've had that now.

He did alright in 2016, signing both Ferres and Segeyaro and while some were declaring that all he cared about was selling t-shirts and chicken nuggets on match day, he's quietly and quickly gone on to sign an exciting looking (and probably not cheap) replacement for Chicko.

fair points. but he's also let too many players go on to long, they are no longer either reliable or good enough. it was there to see for all, or those who wanted to see, last season. nothing has changed. no decent kicker, either in game or at goal, no leaders, no quality half back or full back. its easy to do things on the cheap when you have a spine of quality players who are also leaders. when they have gone you need to rebuild.
you strengthen while on top. the rhinos havn't and I see a few seasons of turbelance ahead, I just pray we don't do a Bradford because I can see us struggling massively.
the spine is weak and rudderless. that's the issue

The main problem he's got is when he took over the club hadn't had any success for years, the team was able to build up slowly to it.

Now the bar has been raised significantly, success isn't a pipe dream, it's a reality and it's demanded.

The transition from also rans to champions didn't come easy, but the slide from top dogs back down will be, that's sport.

Transition is a dirty word, but we are definitely up to our waist in it.