Yeah considering both our wingers are out and tindal isn't up to much I'd rather get the best 13 out there that we can.

Agree also isn’t so much about if the wingers can finish and get service it is are they safe in defence under the high ball and not biting in and more importantly can they put some half decent early meters up when running the ball back.

Our backs were awful on the whole too and we don't want to add another one that goes sideways. Bentley and Gannon Smith is a good backrow and normally I'd like matin there but in this situation his good form could be a benefit to the backs.

Anyone think Newman might be a surprise inclusion?

Not a chance.

I think he might be a suprise inclusion in Shaun Wanes England team.

With the way he looked after the game and his celebrations to the win, I wouldn’t be surprised.

In a way, I'd love him to be back, but given the longer term consequences of previous rushed returns to action I'd rather they err on the side of caution.

I read on twitter (so pinch of salt time) that someone spoke to him after the game and they said see you in the world cup and he said you might see me next week.

I think Martin centre and Hardaker wing is by far the best solution give we have other back row options (assuming Newman isn't fit anyway).

Don't really rate Hardaker as a centre. At Leeds before his best work was as a winger and later as a full back.

Hardaker played very few games on the wing for Leeds first time round - just 9 starts there. He also didn't play that many games in the centres either (21 starts), as he switched to fullback midway through 2012 in his first full season when Webb got injured and pretty much stayed there until he left in 2016. By contrast he played 135 games from fullback.

1 game ban for Martin

Did he fart on someone in a tackle? It's ridiculous isn't it...

as if anymore evidence were needed to show the MRP is an absolute farce
its made this entire season a joke, and this is the turd on top

FFS, the MRP have had it in for us all season, they just cannot help themselves!