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WHY ? Sometimes we do not even use bench spots and Kylie rarely lasted longer than 10 mins

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Quote: ploinerrhino "WHY ? Sometimes we do not even use bench spots and Kylie rarely lasted longer than 10 mins'"


Exactly! He would make a good one year signing for that off the bench role....especially when we are going to be so deprived of second rowers for the start of the 2016 season.

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Quote: Joshheff90 "GH said in an interview recently that we're full on our overseas quota n won't be bringing anyone else in.'"


OQ: Delaney, Moon, Falloon, Garbutt

Galloway, Achurch, Cuthbertson Don't count on overseas quota as they all have British passports. So we still have one quota place left for next season.

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I'm just repeating what GH said, not what I have personally worked out. Interesting in that case, that he would get it wrong ....

I never realised Galloway had an English passport, how does that one work?

I personally hope the rumours are true regarding Achurch and he's off to Australia. However, if that's the case I would like to see a quality back rower come in.

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We have 1 OQ place but 0 NFT places. Although as I understand it Ali wouldn't count on either.
Hetherington was obviously talking in reference to an NRL signing and saying we don't have space, which we don't.

As much as I like Ali I still don't think it's the right move to bring him back.
We've got enough second rowers. If someone of quality or a long term signing were available then fine, but I don't think Ali fits into those categories anymore.

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We do have plenty of BRs it's just they're all so injury prone. You won't get full seasons out of JJB, Delaney or Achurch. Stevie Ward has been very unlucky with injuries too, I very much hope he doesn't continue with this misfortune.

I know since being stood in the right place at the right time and scoring THAT try, some on here have now forgotten how useless Josh Walters was last season n tipping him as one for the future, but I really can't see any potential unfortunately.

So in my opinion we don't look as strong in the back row as others may suggest.

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Quote: Joshheff90 "We do have plenty of BRs it's just they're all so injury prone. You won't get full seasons out of JJB, Delaney or Achurch. Stevie Ward has been very unlucky with injuries too, I very much hope he doesn't continue with this misfortune.

I know since being stood in the right place at the right time and scoring THAT try, some on here have now forgotten how useless Josh Walters was last season n tipping him as one for the future, but I really can't see any potential unfortunately.

So in my opinion we don't look as strong in the back row as others may suggest.'"


I cannot understand why esteemed 'southstanders' (him) state we have 'enough second rowers' !!! IF for the start of 2016 they were all fit that might be an arguable point, but we already know we will be starting without Stevie Ward and JJB, so that leaves Ablett, Delaney and Keinhorst...and who else exactly? Walters needs to vastly improve to be a genuine contender .....

Like Faloon, Ali IMO would have made a very good stop-gap signing for 1 year - until better longer term solutions can be implemented.

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I#d certainly rather watch Ali come off the bench for 12mins next year than every last one of our 2nd row options behind Ablett and Ward (and Ward likely won't be fit to start the season).

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Quote: nantwichexile "I cannot understand why esteemed 'southstanders' (him) state we have 'enough second rowers' !!! IF for the start of 2016 they were all fit that might be an arguable point, but we already know we will be starting without Stevie Ward and JJB, so that leaves Ablett, Delaney and Keinhorst...and who else exactly? Walters needs to vastly improve to be a genuine contender .....

Like Faloon, Ali IMO would have made a very good stop-gap signing for 1 year - until better longer term solutions can be implemented.'"

Spot on. I see our current position like this:
JJB missing half of the season if all goes well. If not we might not see him at all.
Ward will miss the start of the season and is a bit injury prone.
Delaney runs his body into the ground. He will miss games through injury.
Ablett is Mr Dependable.
Keinhorst has been great in the 2nd row but can he do it for a full season? Looks a little light for me. Will have to see how they work with him in pre-season.
Achurch looks like he might leave. If he stays how often will he be injured? On form he is good but he is a risk.
Walters is not good enough yet. He needs some games but not flogging to death every week.

I'm not saying Ali will be putting in 60 mins or anything, and if there was a younger, fitter and experienced option to bring in I would do that. But if that isn't an option then Ali could definitely help us out.

Also, his experience would be a welcome plus as we transition a little next year. For me this is a no-brainer.

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Quote: Joshheff90 "I'm just repeating what GH said, not what I have personally worked out. Interesting in that case, that he would get it wrong ....

I never realised Galloway had an English passport, how does that one work?

I personally hope the rumours are true regarding Achurch and he's off to Australia. However, if that's the case I would like to see a quality back rower come in.'"


His father is from Scotland so he has a British passport.

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JJB stated on Rugby AM he was ready to start light running and hoping to be fit for world club challenge ? d040.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "I cannot understand why esteemed 'southstanders' (him) state we have 'enough second rowers' !!! IF for the start of 2016 they were all fit that might be an arguable point, but we already know we will be starting without Stevie Ward and JJB, so that leaves Ablett, Delaney and Keinhorst...and who else exactly? Walters needs to vastly improve to be a genuine contender .....

Like Faloon, Ali IMO would have made a very good stop-gap signing for 1 year - until better longer term solutions can be implemented.'"

Because I think we've got enough second rowers. We've got JJB, Ablett, Delaney, Ward, Achurch, Keinhorst, Walters to fill 3 spots in the 17 every week.
Yes a couple are currently injured, but they won't miss much of the season.
With Cuthbertson or Singleton probably playing/being named at 13 that's one less backrower we need each week.

If we needed to add an offloader to our squad then I may be tempted by Ali, but we don't. We need a shed load of hard work from our second row. Mainly helping the back 5 drive it out of our half following a kick and in tackling anything that moves to help our big pack in defence.

As I said, if a player of real quality was available that's different, same for a long term option, but Ali doesn't fit either of those for me anymore.

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Got to say i agree with Him we have plenty of Options at BR but saying that i'd love us to after Oli Holmes from Cas ok he's not a prolific offloading BR but he's quality and imo a perfect replacement for Jjb.

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