I have been on 3 boards on here so far and you have posted the same message on them all. Why?

In answer to the OP question - No, they are not.

To offer a reply to the letter that he won't yet have written to the RFL and Leeds Rugby Ltd, "We are sorry that you found your enjoyment to be spoiled by the behaviour of a small number of aggressive supporters, but the control of the crowd outside of the ground is, blah, blah, blah", the reply is probably already written in "Standard Reply #42".

I'm only surprised that this is the first time that you have ever come across aggressive drunken behaviour by moronic males who seem to take some sort of delight in aggressive drunken behaviour, as if that were some sort of "norm" in their social circle, and maybe it is.

Don't worry, move on, you are better than they are and the only downside is that they will die of kidney and liver destruction in their 40s and you will pick up the bill via the NHS.

To be fair to every decent law abiding supporter of the game, this is not a problem that pervades one club, town or area. It is a society wide problem and needs to be addressed at that level. We are just fortunate that our sport has, on the whole, not attracted too many of he undesirables.

It comes down to how you're brought up, simple as that. You either have respect for others because, you have been given that life lesson, or you don't. Regrettably, far too often, the latter is the case.

So you've basically come on here and moaned because you lost?
Yes we know we have idiot fans, as does everyone else in SL.
Why come on here and try and put a dampner on things?!
I could say the say thing about Wigan fans and the abuse myself and my dad received before the game but what's the point? It's not going to get you anywhere.

Talking of Wigan fans, fighting amongst yourselfs again yesterday was it behind the posts?

I would suggest that Leeds fans are the last to call other clubs supporters for that particular activity at showpiece games...

Once again, two words.

Bog Brush.

...nuff said.

A group of four Leeds vermin were ejected from the seats behind us yesterday, shortly after showering the people I was with in beer.

IMO it's not acceptable to dismiss the Wigan fan's complaints as sour grapes. Even if I didn't see this incident I saw plenty of evidence yesterday of this kind of behaviour by Leeds fans. And it's not a worthy argument to say, "every other club is just as bad". Who cares? A not insubstantial number of aggressive and unpleasant scum follow Leeds and we shouldn't be afraid to accept that fact and see if it can be dealt with (the fact that it probably can't be is also not sufficient reason to ignore it).

It's easier to just pen them in at the back of the South Stand so they don't come into contact with opposition fans inside the ground. Once they are outside on the streets, it's not the club's problem any more. They're more than happy to take the bar profits they generate though.

It's been an issue over the last ten years that the club have paid less than lip service to in the pursuit of profit.

At the train station on the way home there was a load of Bog Brusher on one side of the platform and a load of loiners on the other. Both were goading each other - both were as bad as each other.

As with all other sports there is always a minority who spoil it for others and I am sorry that this happened to you and yours. On the other hand my party walked off debating the game with some great wigan Guys, so its not all bad.

I'm fed up of these type of fans, but what irritates me just as much is the obligatory thread on here that somehow makes us partly responsible, and having to defend ourselves for the behaviour of a moron. The responsibility lies with them, they'd be morons whether they had a Leeds shirt on or not. It's embarrassing to be seen wearing the same shirt as them but it's a problem with the individual, not the clubs fans as a whole. These threads achieve nothing I'm afraid.

I saw such an incident and thought it was a disgrace ....

I am going to write and complain the following people in this order :

- The lead singer of Echo & The Bunnymen

- Former 'How' presenter Fred Dineage

- The Chairman of Cowdenbeath FC (or failing that the Chairman of Oxford Utd FC )

- Derek Batey

- God

Etc. Etc. Etc.

If I do not receive a satisfactory reply from any of them or if the government does not impose Marshal Law from Noon this Friday in an attempt to catch such perpetrators, my spouse / offspring / hamster / cattle / other domestic animals / fence post / cheese grater collection (*Delete as applicable) will never attend a game of Rugby League in our lives (* Any future lives we have through reincarnation or regression hypnosis)

And given the number of police around, why did you not make an effort to report this 'behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace' to the nearest constable ?

To be fair I saw more trouble at the carnival....

Plenty of wannabe rude bwoys around.