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| Quote: Harrigan "Hold on... Rangi Chase is in NZ isn't he at the mo? Also, what's the odds He lives in Leeds seeing as though Cas is basically a subberb on the outskirts of the city
The Kiwis always have nights out together. I was at virgin active once and on my way out saw Webby, Ali, Solomona, Toopi....just about every Kiwi in SL we're on the lash.
Chase needs to be at a bigger club. He would be awesome at Leeds. I would straight do a swap deal with Cas.
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| It makes me laugh how so many people on here are so fickle about Rob. He was IIRC, one of our best players in the playoff match against Wigan, yet some 'supporters' feel the need to have a player that they have to slag off at any given opportunity.
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "It makes me laugh how so many people on here are so fickle about Rob. He was IIRC, one of our best players in the playoff match against Wigan, yet some 'supporters' feel the need to have a player that they have to slag off at any given opportunity.'"
I feel I have been pretty consistant about my opinions on Rob for the last 2 years or so. He does not have the game to be a top SH. He is a poor decision maker and kills overlaps for fun. The majority of the time he holds the ball too long and has no idea how to break down a set defensive line. Burrow is a good broken field runner but doesn't really offer much else anymore and as the set defensive lines have become much better over the last few years we have seen a gradual decline in his game.
In this time we have seen McGuire evolve and become a more complete player where as Burrow has stagnated.
There's no room for sentiment if you want a successful team and I do believe he has already had a season too long at Leeds.
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "one of our best players in the playoff match against Wigan,.'"
I guess your talking about the one at the DW?
He was one of our best players due to the space Wigan gave him.I've been saying all year that we have an awesome back line but the forwards are not giving them any space to work with. We still need one more brute forward imo. But with the addition of cross and hopefully more luck with injuries the pack will be on top more this year, then we can see what Rob has still got to offer.
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| This deal wouldn't happen anyway.
Whilst I think they are talking our of their arrisis a lot of Cas fans seem to think Chase is their best overseas player in the last 20 years. Ridiculous I know, but can you honestly see the Cas board putting themselves in the position of alienating themselves against the fans like that. It's not as if Burrow would be a cheaper option for them to give some excuse.
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| Quote: Gotcha "This deal wouldn't happen anyway.
Whilst I think they are talking our of their arrisis a lot of Cas fans seem to think Chase is their best overseas player in the last 20 years. Ridiculous I know, but can you honestly see the Cas board putting themselves in the position of alienating themselves against the fans like that. It's not as if Burrow would be a cheaper option for them to give some excuse.'"
TBF I'm with them on this. It's a shame the lads not in the NRL because as good as he is now he would be a much better organising player had he had the oportunity to make it over there. Add this to his current play making skills and the Kiwis would have had a brilliant half back pairing of him and Benji.
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| The thing about Rob is he used to be unpredictable. His speed and size, coupled with the fact you didn't have a clue what he was going to do every time he got the ball made him what he is today.
The reason for his gradual decline, isn't that he's lost his pace, or forgotten how to break defences down, it's that now he's not the only one doing it and most teams have their own version of Rob (see messrs Robinson, Leuluai, Myler, Tomkins, Eastmond for more details) teams have spent more time researching and practising how to deal with it, and thus it becomes much more predictable. If you can predict what Rob is going to do, he becomes much easier to contain.
This is why every now and then he has a cracking match, it's the match where McGuire, or Sinfield, or Peacock is massively in form and expected to play well, and everybody concentrates on him and forgets to watch Rob, giving him back his edge.
The matches where Rob is expected to play well, and the press are talking about his form in the build up to the match, he nearly always is shut out of the game. The point I'm making is, as good as Rob is, with research and good tactics he is stoppable. There is an answer to it. It's not like Hayne, or Inglis, where no matter how much research you do, or who you put to mark them, if they're on form it's irrelevant.
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "I've read the same rumour on a couple of other forums.
I would imagine there will be all sorts of rumours flying around now with the departing players and coaches.
Others i've read include Bailey & Cash to Hull for Tom briscoe and Andy Lynch from Bulls.
Before this last couple of weeks I'd have said its all rubbish but everything seems crazy at the moment so who knows'"
Briscoe will be staying put, don't worry about that.
But I agree, rumours flying about everywhere, mostly BS but who knows what could happen.
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| I like little beep beep, but would happily swop him for Rangi Chase any day. If GH can also arrange an exchange of young Burgess for Andy lynch, that would set next season up nicely!
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "It makes me laugh how so many people on here are so fickle about Rob. He was IIRC, one of our best players in the playoff match against Wigan, yet some 'supporters' feel the need to have a player that they have to slag off at any given opportunity.'"
You're just perhaps a little too sentimental and over emotional...... I won't make any sexist comments ...
Thought you might have learned that with Diskin.
Nobody is ' slagging ' off Burrow. He has some fine qualities already mentioned elsewhere....but what he has NOT got is the consistent attacking prowess of an abundance of ideas and skills.... not least a decent kicking game.
We need somebody more like Rangi Chase alongside McGuire.
Burrow could stay and be used off the bench as the impact hooker that Diskin so abysmally failed as.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "the impact hooker that Diskin so abysmally failed as.'"
Yeah, stick boot in.
Why not?
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Yeah, stick boot in.
Why not?'"
Oh I don't blame him....not a role I think he was suited for and it was patently obvious a very long time ago.
Mis - management is the guilty party here. ... Although the eventual outcome probably better suits both club and player.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "The Kiwis always have nights out together. I was at virgin active once and on my way out saw Webby, Ali, Solomona, Toopi....just about every Kiwi in SL we're on the lash.
[b]Chase needs to be at a bigger club. He would be awesome at Leeds. I would straight do a swap deal with Cas.[/]quote]
I agree, providing the 'straight' swap is for Burrow plus say Hall, Kirke and Clarkson Seriously I think Cas would just want the big fee he would command and then only if they think our license bid is scoobied.
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