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| The cap is a good idea but it needs some fundemental charges - to have the same cap since its inception is just plain wrong - you cannot say that the very players we all love to watch are not worth what they were ten years ago.
For me we should reward development of players by clubs and there should be penalties to avoid clubs engaging the host of very average players from down under.
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| Quote: Serge A. Storms "The cap is a good idea but it needs some fundemental charges - to have the same cap since its inception is just plain wrong - you cannot say that the very players we all love to watch are not worth what they were ten years ago.
For me we should reward development of players by clubs and there should be penalties to avoid clubs engaging the host of very average players from down under.'"
Christ Almighty, I'm agreeing with you twice in the same day. I feel faint.
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| Quote: BigRob "Christ Almighty, I'm agreeing with you twice in the same day. I feel faint.
You all get there in the end - only joking
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| The Cap as been good for the game in gerneral however I think there should be a annual increase to allow clubs to reward players for loyalty, At leeds you get a salary on a sliding scale however if you the top then thats is it no more rises so if dor instance we have a 19 year old who crossed all the right boxes he would be top wack but no opportunity for an increase? I know inflation is low to non existant at the moment but has been running at 3% for the last few years. On a £70 K salary thats approx 2K a year decrease. So we need a cost of living upgrade
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| Quote: roo "The Cap as been good for the game in gerneral however I think there should be a annual increase to allow clubs to reward players for loyalty, At leeds you get a salary on a sliding scale however if you the top then thats is it no more rises so if dor instance we have a 19 year old who crossed all the right boxes he would be top wack but no opportunity for an increase? I know inflation is low to non existant at the moment but has been running at 3% for the last few years. On a £70 K salary thats approx 2K a year decrease. So we need a cost of living upgrade'"
I agree with you in principle but I believe that the cap is voted upon & agreed by the clubs themselves.
Therefore, they must consider that the game as a whole cannot afford to increase the cap.
I agree also with the earlier poster who suggested some form of disregard for those players that a club has developed in-house.
At least the cap has stopped clubs generally living beyond their means or relying on a sugar daddy & it is creating the mythical level playing field that any sport needs to continue to attract audiences across the board.
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| The cap has been very good for the sport but I think the RFL need to look into helping clubs retain their local/British talent from the green envy that is the RFU.
Maybe one way is exepmtion for homegrown talent, or an increased allowance. This would imo motivate clubs into investing more in youth, less overseas players, improve the national side and keep the majority of our young players away from the RFU.
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| Quote: Puig-Aubert "Its not been perfect but has, at least, prevented some chairmen from bankrupting their clubs chasing glory.'"
A few of them have still given it a pretty good go, which ought to be acknowledged.
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| I think the salary cap should apply to overseas players only. For instance, teams have £300 000 or so to spend on quota players per season and an unlimited amount to spend on British talent. Yes I know this will be a disadvantage to smaller clubs but then again, why shouldn't the commercially successful clubs have an advantage when it comes to their squad?
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| Quote: Old Feller "I agree with you in principle but I believe that the cap is voted upon & agreed by the clubs themselves.
Therefore, they must consider that the game as a whole cannot afford to increase the cap.
I agree also with the earlier poster who suggested some form of disregard for those players that a club has developed in-house.
At least the cap has stopped clubs generally living beyond their means or relying on a sugar daddy & it is creating the mythical level playing field that any sport needs to continue to attract audiences across the board.'"
I agree with your points. It has brought some stability to the game and helped our youngsters. I would allow a certain number of "club produced" young players to be excluded from the salary cap at least until they have earned a full time place in the senior squad.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "I agree with your points. It has brought some stability to the game and helped our youngsters. I would allow a certain number of "club produced" young players to be excluded from the salary cap at least until they have earned a full time place in the senior squad.'"
Im not sure whether that in itself would work, but I certainly think there should be some kind of reward in the salary cap for having a certain number of home grown players in your squad.
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| It's definitely a good thing, as we fans of Leeds who lived through near bankruptcy should fully understand. History has shown time and again that some clubs will put their entire future at risk chasing glory, and RL simply cannot afford to lose any SL clubs through their own mismanagement. The cap level is up to the clubs to decide, so long as the RFL also has basic solvency requirements in place as well. I do tend to agree that if clubs spend less than a minimum then their right to a franchise spot should be questioned, as the gap between top and bottom is probably of more significance than the absolute level of the cap.
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| Like most others I think its been great overall - ending clubs living beyond their means and helping to leveling up the competition (although there are still clear bands in SL the top/middle/bottom teams are more competetive among themselves).
I also think something could be done to help clubs retain youngsters - I'm sure the current cap has contributed to the fact that next year Leeds will have quite a few more overseas players than we've had for a while.
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| Quote: Omar Little "Like most others I think its been great overall - ending clubs living beyond their means and helping to leveling up the competition (although there are still clear bands in SL the top/middle/bottom teams are more competetive among themselves).
I also think something could be done to help clubs retain youngsters - I'm sure the current cap has contributed to the fact that next year Leeds will have quite a few more overseas players than we've had for a while.'"
Very good point is that and I agree. I doubt we'd have lost Ellis the year before and Smith this term if not for the Cap.
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| Quote: rpw "Very good point is that and I agree. I doubt we'd have lost Ellis the year before and Smith this term if not for the Cap.'"
And Delaney looks like a "value for money" salary cap signing (not knocking him, I've not seen him play)
Under the cap every team needs some dependable but cheap players - some may be good old one-club pros but more often they seem to be overseas signings.
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| Thanks ever so much for all the feedback, some really good suggestions in there!
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