totally agree, lets judge Myler when we have winning competing side.

I'm not saying Myler is a bad player or that he's to blame for last season.
I am saying he's the wrong type of HB we needed

not sure i would agree with that, as above looked good early season and was getting praise from others, i remember John wells saying is Myler finally at the right club at the right time, then the wheels fell off.

Not having an half back partner was /is the problem, Sutcliffe is useless, moon wanted to go home from about March and disappeared rest of season, and no other options only Lilley who was shipped out to Bradford. Plus the worst softest leeds Pack since about 1987
Myler sent the last 3 years of his career trying to guide awful sides around the park, still reserve judgement on Myler with an attack minded coach and better side around him.

Yet again, I didn't say Furner or new set up won't improve him.

What I've said is *When* we signed him we needed an organiser more than we needed what Myler was offering at the time.

When we signed myler we actually needed two HB's as moon was never up to the job.

Only signing one put myler is the position of trying to do his job, carry moon and play behind an aging pack.

I agree that he wasn't all we needed when he came.

I think he did a decent job overall though and with a proper Hb to play with and a bit more dominance from the pack and he will show up to be a decent player.

I agree with that Tbh

That’s fine but I was watching him closely for England at the weekend; nice passing game, very committed in defence given his size limitations, big effort - but kicking game total pants and not the running game to cause concern in good opposition.
He’s solid enough. Then again I always thought he was overrated at Warrington. The side does have worse problems to deal with - my original point was just that I wouldn’t mind someone else nudging past him to partner Lolohea (if we can get him match fit..).

I agree.

We need a decent kicking game to emerge from somewhere.

I'm also hoping that across myler, lolohea and mcClelleand we will have some competition in the halves and also some diversity.

Yes agreed mate. McLelland has a lot of development in him, but I like the video clips I’ve seen. He has some skills and a bit of whack in defence too. It won’t do Myler any harm to be one of three rather than one of one in any case.

I think he’s a different player to what he was at Warrington. He’s now the player he should have been when Briers retired.

I spent most of last season thinking that he’s too good for us tbh. He had a huge task on his hands last year and I’d imagine had many thoughts of “why have I come here?”. No structure, woeful pack, woeful half back partner etc. I’d love to have seen a McGuire / Myler partnership, it’d have been very dangerous.

I'm hoping that in McClelland we have someone with a decent kicking game. If he's been playing 10 in Union he should be able to kick a ball well enough.

I've thought for a while watching both games that any reasonable Union 10 would kick 40-20s all day long

TBH I think the lad has a very solid all-round game. Not sure he is Nikorima-quick, but he can defend hard and I like that in a half. Quite aggressive.