FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > RD 16 | Widnes Vikings v Leeds Rhinos
84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: batleyrhino "Coaches generally get too much credit when things are going well, and too much criticism when they are not...

At Leeds it seems to be the players that are responsible when we win, and the coach is responsible when we lose.

I'm not the biggest fan of BMD, but he does come in for some unfair criticism at times.'"


I think in the past that is true. With the squad we have currently, I dissagree with you. That performance on Friday was definitely an influence from McDermott, it had to be, although he must have had big help. The team named was not on paper the best we have had, but he certainly had them fired up and working.

On Monday that performance was again his doing. If not tactics, then simply his stupidity in selections and how he flogs people to death. It is not a mistake he makes once, he constantly does it, and learns absolutely nothing. He is fully accountable on that.

RankPostsTeam
International Star6848No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: FlexWheeler "I never said I wasn't bothered about the loss. Nowhere did I use those words. The loss irritated me, but there's no point getting too upset when we are still 3rd.
'"


That's how i fee, a missed opportunity but i never thought we would be in such a good position at this stage with Wigan still losing games, Warrington shot and Salford and Wakey in the 4!

Important now to put this right behind us and bounce straight back with a win on Friday, this can be quickly swept under the carpet thankfully.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman4462
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Biff Tannen "That's how i fee, a missed opportunity but i never thought we would be in such a good position at this stage with Wigan still losing games, Warrington shot and Salford and Wakey in the 4!
'"


A look at the predictions thread could be interesting at this point, I doubt many have more than 4/5 right

RankPostsTeam
International Star222No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TheSnowmonkey "After the Wire matches comments not just here but elsewhere were very positive n rightly so...Consensus seems to be that it was one of the best team performances since the treble winning side. Defence was rock solid especially in the first half. Yeah Wire were not at their best but Leeds put untold pressure on them to add to their woes forcing them not only to make more errors but sap the life out of them . So much so they didn't even bother to protest at decisions. If they knocked on..normally you might go no not me...as with Atkins...yeah n give up. In attack Leeds were fast ,playing beautiful rugby..everything seemed to gel...the players were working for each other, they looked relaxed even show boating..It was wonderful to watch. However there was no comments on tactics or praise for Mac that he had got things right.
Don't get me wrong I am hacked off by the loss to Widnes, I agree that his use of the bench was baffling...If you go back before the CC match when the Bradford 4 loan was announced I felt it wrong because the number of fixtures would take their toll...CC, MW..Wire, Widnes n Leigh...( mind that nothing compared to fixtures in Lewis Jones day) ..Mind even Mac at the time said it was a huge gamble to take...but he pointed out if we had kept them..they were not used until one match..then they would not be able to cope...Was the Bradford alone something he really wanted or more GH's as he is keen on seeing Bradford survive.
Back to Widnes match...yes use of the bench was maybe not the best ..but I am not Mac so don't know his reasons...The players out their on pitch need to take responsibility...after the loss to Giants when team were trying to play expansive rugby in wet conditions. Mac eluded to the fact that that was not what was coached...he doesn't tell them to make the errors or give away needless penalties..especially against a new ref who you don't know how he going to judge it...in 1st half he called up Burrow to put them on a team warning...Mac can advise at half time this is what we need to do...( though at that point we were still in the lead if marginally) once they took to the pitch it was down to them...as Roy Francis use to say when his teams floundered..you dug the hole ..now you get out of it...yes they might have been tired but then they should play it simple do basics to get win...the defence which was strong on Friday was ragged..they created the gaps needlessly that allowed Widnes to score...you could see them coming.
It possible that Leeds team put too much effort into win over Wire that they sapped their own strength...but then other teams are in the same boat...Ok Cas does not have many injured but don't think they rested any players in all matches...so still say it down to players as well...

For the record ( ok I know they wouldn't blame Mac for tactics.) but they are first to acknowledge they screwed up..they made the errors ,where not sharp enough or did not execute the game plan...yet fans are quick to shove the blame on Mac?

We have a lifeline....we are still 3rd !!!!!! which is far better than any pundit or fan predicted pre season...as someone else said the 2015 team lost matches they should have won....they also won matches which were not always the most scintillating to watch. June is fast approaching..which means the loan deal is coming to an end...asides CS who would probably benefit from another spell the rest can be brought back. Still a long way to go tis seasons end.'"


Macca will never get credit from the self proclaimed experts on here. Rhinos win.....and the players did what was expected and the coach had help (from where...I haven't got a scooby), Leeds lose and it was entirely the coach's fault. We have a squad at the moment, that isn't as good as we have been used to for the last several years, BUT we are are competing at the right end of the table. For the record, I respect Macca and hold him in high regard for what he has jointly achieved with players and staff at the club. Once his tenure is complete and we have a new coach whomever it will be, he will receive the same support from me and mine as the previous incumbent. As it currently is, Macca is our coach and no whining or bellyaching will change that, we will take the rough with the smooth and see where we end up. For any fans who can remember the "Bridesmaid years" like myself, I've enjoyed the last fifteen years immensely and am looking forward to the future with a big smile.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24443
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



as I've said plenty of times he's got a brilliant record and I've said on here he's done a fantastic job. however occasionally, and its happened a good few times, he does something so bloody daft you wonder what he's thinking. Mondays use, or non use, of subs was one of those times.
as such when he does things like that he deserves criticism, as he does praise when he get things right.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2216No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: rhino65 "Macca will never get credit from the self proclaimed experts on here. Rhinos win.....and the players did what was expected and the coach had help (from where...I haven't got a scooby), Leeds lose and it was entirely the coach's fault. We have a squad at the moment, that isn't as good as we have been used to for the last several years, BUT we are are competing at the right end of the table. For the record, I respect Macca and hold him in high regard for what he has jointly achieved with players and staff at the club. Once his tenure is complete and we have a new coach whomever it will be, he will receive the same support from me and mine as the previous incumbent. As it currently is, Macca is our coach and no whining or bellyaching will change that, we will take the rough with the smooth and see where we end up. For any fans who can remember the "Bridesmaid years" like myself, I've enjoyed the last fifteen years immensely and am looking forward to the future with a big smile.'"


Absolutely spot on post. It's one thing for some to want him to move on or criticise his choices but some clearly actively dislike like, insult him and give him little to zero credit and then accuse him of arrogance even though he places the credit for successes on players, staff and management more than any other coach whilst downplaying his role.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman9565No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I agree BM gets too much stick, but at the same time he brings some criticism on himself. The non-use of subs is farcial, as is not properly spelling players during games. The game is genuinely a 17 man game, and has been for over a decade. Regularly picking subs and either not using them or giving them 5 minutes is poor coaching, no matter how you dress it up.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7290
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I see Powell is going to rest some of his first team players against Saints on Sunday as they will be playing 3 games in 10 days.
Whilst other teams are playing 3 games in 8 days.
Maybe when the international was being played al teams should have just carried on playing their normal fixtures like they do in the NRL.
In Leeds case the loss of Watkins and Hall should be nothing instead of flogging 10/12 per team for three games in a short period of time.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22777
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



In fairness Powell can rest players. Cas lose and it is no real hardship. We can't afford another loss against Leigh and really can't afford a loss a against Wakefield either. Rest them against fev

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SmokeyTA "In fairness Powell can rest players. Cas lose and it is no real hardship. We can't afford another loss against Leigh and really can't afford a loss a against Wakefield either. Rest them against fev'"



Powelll has been rotating his team throughout the season, that's why he is where he is, and why he can afford to lose if it happens.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2216No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Gotcha "Powelll has been rotating his team throughout the season, that's why he is where he is, and why he can afford to lose if it happens.'"


Yet before the England game he'd only used 21 players compared to 26 for Leeds and most others, Wigan even more. They're playing well no doubt but their lack of injuries compared to others has helped them in both results and.resting a player here and there.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24443
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: PrinterThe "Yet before the England game he'd only used 21 players compared to 26 for Leeds and most others, Wigan even more. They're playing well no doubt but their lack of injuries compared to others has helped them in both results and.resting a player here and there.'"



spot on. they will get injuries at some point, also a blip. be interesting to see what happens then

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9075
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tad rhino "spot on. they will get injuries at some point, also a blip. be interesting to see what happens then'"


You'd think so although neither is a nailed-on cert. Occasionally some teams just get lucky with injuries.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2216No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Clearwing "You'd think so although neither is a nailed-on cert. Occasionally some teams just get lucky with injuries.'"


True, I mean Hull had a good run with lack of injuries last year and obviously benefitted. If Wigan and Cas swapped injury lists then the former would probably be top now and the latter losing ground on the top 4.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10530
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



To be fair, Cas have had their fair share of injuries the last couple of years.

84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


6.59423828125:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
4m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63260
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40792
9m
Film game
Boss Hog
5735
20m
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
Recent
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
53s
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
1m
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63260
1m
Salford
karetaker
52
1m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
1m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
1m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5735
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,665 ↑12180,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
4m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63260
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40792
9m
Film game
Boss Hog
5735
20m
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
Recent
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
53s
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
1m
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63260
1m
Salford
karetaker
52
1m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
1m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
1m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5735
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!