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| Quote: DHM "I must congratulate you on your avatar. A picture of Shaun Wane smiling - I didn't think one existed.'"
Can't say I'd noticed he was smiling.
Thought I'd finally get around to selecting an avatar and chose a former Leeds player.
That it happens to be Shaun Wane is merely incidental  |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So you think that a bit of roughing up deserves a punch to the face while sparked out on the floor then?
He has a broken nose and is being observed for concussion, etc. He can't yet go home until he has been cleared by the medics.'"
I never said he deserved even the first punch never mind the second, try reading posts before quoting and replying to them.
And looking at it from another POV, does Flower's shove in Hohaia's back 'deserve' a forearm in the chin from him (if you want to use that word)?
Considering the force of the punches, a broken nose is quite lucky. He said himself he wanted to go back on the pitch, quite incredible. |
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| Quote: Swoggy Loiner "Doing the rounds that Leeds have signed Hock on a 2 year deal. I'd take that.'"
I've heard that rumour as well.
Cracking news if there's truth in it and it comes to fruition. |
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I would have serious misgivings about signing Gareth Hock. If somebody can get him to be the player he could/should be, then great.
If what you get is some strong carries and offloads accompanied by clocking off in defence, foolish penalties and the occasional long spell collecting his wages from the stands while banned for a brain implosion, not so happy days.
It would be a risk, to say the least.
I very much doubt that it's true anyway.
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| Quote: William Eve "I've heard that rumour as well.
Cracking news if there's truth in it and it comes to fruition.'"
WHEN on form, just the kind of player we need for our pack, BUT not the kind of person we need at our club and I cannot see anyway that GH will sign him |
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| Quote: El Diablo "I would have serious misgivings about signing Gareth Hock. If somebody can get him to be the player he could/should be, then great.
If what you get is some strong carries and offloads accompanied by clocking off in defence, foolish penalties and the occasional long spell collecting his wages from the stands while banned for a brain implosion, not so happy days.
It would be a risk, to say the least.
I very much doubt that it's true anyway.'"
Barrie McDermott was a loose cannon (on and off the field) who Wigan decided was expendable and whom no other club would entertain. Leeds took a chance on him. Now he's one of two hall of famers on this website  |
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "WHEN on form, just the kind of player we need for our pack, BUT not the kind of person we need at our club and I cannot see anyway that GH will sign him'"
I'm of the opinion that GH's utilisation of his moral compass with regard to the employee list at the club has very much taken a back seat in recent times.
I guess the time of need has arrived and the club can no longer afford to be quite so choosy. |
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| Quote: William Eve "Barrie McDermott was a loose cannon (on and off the field) who Wigan decided was expendable and whom no other club would entertain. Leeds took a chance on him. Now he's one of two hall of famers on this website ![]()
Barrie was 22 when he joined Leeds. He had plenty of growing up to do off the field, but he was at the right age to do it. In terms of risk/reward you also had the chance of 10 years of service if he sorted himself out.
Hock could be too old and too far gone to grow up, and on the outside chance he does the rewards are minimal.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Barrie was 22 when he joined Leeds. He had plenty of growing up to do off the field, but he was at the right age to do it. In terms of risk/reward you also had the chance of 10 years of service if he sorted himself out.
Hock could be too old and too far gone to grow up, and on the outside chance he does the rewards are minimal.'"
Probably, but it's a risk worth taking IMO. |
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| Quote: William Eve "Barrie McDermott was a loose cannon (on and off the field) who Wigan decided was expendable and whom no other club would entertain. Leeds took a chance on him. Now he's one of two hall of famers on this website ![]()
I said it was a risk, not a certain failure.
It's a gamble with a potentially big pay out. It also has a fairly high probability (if we're Bayesian about it) of being a disaster.
It seems to be an internet rumour anyway. Which gives it a similarly high probability of being a load of old bobbins.
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The fun on these boards if we sign Hock would be worth it regardless. He's clearly a bit of a loon, but he can be what no other Leeds forward is - genuinely damaging with the ball.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "To be honest, although I feel for Hohaia and hope he has no injuries, the saying "if you play with fire, you're going to get burnt" springs to mind. As a half-back, you can't expect no retaliation when you go and chase a prop and forearm him in the face (even if he shoved you first). He probably would've been out of the game without the second horrible punch - point being a lot of people have said the first one was 'fair'.
And fully agree with the final statement.'"
Wigan have built their abrasive style on overreaction to limited provocation. It's kept them on the front foot I many games this season. Karma is a b***h. |
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Lenegan & Wane both have to support Flower, he was only carrying out Wane's instructions as highlighted in the recent programme shown on Sky where he instructed his players to knock out the opposition.
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Charged with Grade "F" offence, minimum 8 matches I believe.
Not sure if EGP applies nor what the effect of that could be,
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Quote: Bobtownrhino "
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What riles me most is Gary Linekar gloating that football is such a gentlemans sport and it would never happen. Wonder if Gary Linekar remembers Roy Keane and Alf Ing-Haland. Hypocritical twonk'"
Send Lineker a link to this:
www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ellow-card |
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Quote: Bobtownrhino "
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What riles me most is Gary Linekar gloating that football is such a gentlemans sport and it would never happen. Wonder if Gary Linekar remembers Roy Keane and Alf Ing-Haland. Hypocritical twonk'"
Send Lineker a link to this:
www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ellow-card | |
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