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Quote: McLaren_Field "I think that if my employer suggested that I receive half my wage in the normal way with a payslip, and the other half paid in cash with no questions, or paid to my wife with no questions asked, or if I received a contract of employment that only mentioned half of my salary on it with a separate letter confirming that the other half would be paid by other means and I was not to tell anyone about it - I'd start to wonder who the hell I was working for.



Mind - it has happened
Thats how its done in Spain ( and Greece, Italy and.....)

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Quote: rhinoms "The one SC breach i do think that was ridiculous was penalising Saints for Graham and Roby earning international caps which in effect punished the club for producing homegrown players and again showed the powers that be as daft at the very least imo.'"


When did this happen?

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[url:15kig0eg]http://www.traditionalteacompany.co.uk/[/url:15kig0eg] [quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg



Quote: Juan Cornetto "Do you mean we lost on the day to a team of top players assembled by a club that cheated the rules that our club had to adhere to?

I agree we cannot be called the World Club Champions but equally we didn`t lose to the SRL champions. We should have another go at the Oz team that finished 2nd.'"


Whilst that would be fair, it wouldnt be practical. Parra finished runners up to the Storm so they should be more agrieved than Leeds, and they wont be claiming last years NRL title. Its best for other clubs to just get on with it, they have damaged the sport and deserve everything that they get. At least Leeds will get the £50,000 WCC money icon_wink.gif

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Quote: rpw "As for the world club challenge i feel a bit aggreaved but hey ho at least we will hopefully recieve the 50k...'"


Will we?

The prize money that is being returned to the NRL is going to be divided among the other 15 clubs not just given to the runners up.

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I realise a chief executive cannot know everything that goes on in an organisation. BUT, he remains ultimately responsible for all levels and activities underneath him. Surely heads must roll, his first.

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[url:15kig0eg]http://www.traditionalteacompany.co.uk/[/url:15kig0eg] [quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg



Quote: tvoc "Will we?

The prize money that is being returned to the NRL is going to be divided among the other 15 clubs not just given to the runners up.'"


Not the WCC money, just the NRL prize money. The WCC money is suppost to go to Leeds now....

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Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Not the WCC money, just the NRL prize money. The WCC money is suppost to go to Leeds now....'"


I wasn't suggesting the WCC money go to the NRL just commenting how the NRL appear to be saying they will be distributing the monies returned across the other clubs not just handing it over to the runners up.

I'd await the RFL's decision on any monies eventually returned rather than assuming Leeds will be cashed up.

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[url:15kig0eg]http://www.traditionalteacompany.co.uk/[/url:15kig0eg] [quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg



Quote: tvoc "I wasn't suggesting the WCC money go to the NRL just commenting how the NRL appear to be saying they will be distributing the monies returned across the other clubs not just handing it over to the runners up.

I'd await the RFL's decision on any monies eventually returned rather than assuming Leeds will be cashed up.'"


It should go to Leeds. As for the monies being split between all the NRL teams. How else could they have done it?? Had Storm not cheated they might not of got anywhere near the GF. Its the only fair way.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



I thought it was the who CEO coughed when the NRL Internal Audit team found some dodgy files in a back room of the club and they in effect rumbled him! The second set of books and files were at his house I understand! Might not be the CEO, could be the FD, but certainly a senior employee of the club.

It is the board that are saying they knew nothing about these extra payments... but as many major club sponsors are often on the board and these third party payment were clearly being funded somehow....???

This story is not over by a long way, expect long term player suspensions, tax, criminal investigations and possible people 'serving time'!

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It an unbelievable story, I too am stunned. All I can think of is do the people involved not have a love for Rugby League? Why would they want to cheat? Its a beautiful sport and a great competition, all involved are making a living out of the sport even if Melbourne did stick to the rules. So why would they want to cheat? If every club did what they did then the sport would be in turmoil. Did they get any satisfaction out of this? If they didn't get found out would they have looked back after they had retired and been proud of their 'achievements'. Something to tell the grandkids about and all that. If I was in a position to run or have part control of a big club I would be driven by the excitement of going head to head with the the other organisations on a fair basis. I would get no satisfaction what so ever from doing anything like this. Makes me sick.

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Quote: tvoc "When did this happen?'"

At the end of the seaon after they'd made their England debuts.
The RFL published results of that seasons SC audits and Saints were fined for what was described as a "minor breach" because the aforementioned youngsters got bonuses as part of their contracts for making their international debuts.
I'm sure someone on the Saints forum can concur this aswell the RFL argued that the "bonuses" put them over their cap allowence for that season whilst Saints argued that they shouldn't of been punished for producing international players and that they'd made the break through quicker than anticipated which i completely agree with and i still think that the 1st 25K or so should not be counted on the SC for players that come through the clubs acadamy!

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Quote: RhinoNeil "It an unbelievable story, I too am stunned. All I can think of is do the people involved not have a love for Rugby League? Why would they want to cheat? Its a beautiful sport and a great competition, all involved are making a living out of the sport even if Melbourne did stick to the rules. So why would they want to cheat? If every club did what they did then the sport would be in turmoil. Did they get any satisfaction out of this? If they didn't get found out would they have looked back after they had retired and been proud of their 'achievements'. Something to tell the grandkids about and all that. If I was in a position to run or have part control of a big club I would be driven by the excitement of going head to head with the the other organisations on a fair basis. I would get no satisfaction what so ever from doing anything like this. Makes me sick.'"

Great thoughts mate but naive imo.
It comes down to greed pure and simple and hopefully this will be the 1 and only case of it's kind and the sanctions imposed will clean up the sport in this area.

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I'm all for a end of season competition for Wigan,Bradford,Hull,Saints and Melbourne Strom if a suitable title for this competition could be found. icon_wink.gif

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News Limited are not happy bunnies at all - rlhttp://media.theaustralian.com.au/multimedia/graphics/100422-new-condemns-storm-management.pdfrl

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