Look, no offence or anything but so what?

8000 people turned up for some games. Even if they were all paying full price (highly doubt that was the case) that will not and never will generate enough income to fund a team on the other side of the Atlantic given their extended cost base. That's before you even get into the contracts some of the players are on.

I agree the sport is going nowhere and has been for years but a club in Canada is not going to change that.

TWP have dropped out of SL under the guise of Covid-19 and certainly that has created a number of issues. There are clearly bigger issues though. Players were not getting paid on time before Covid-19. They had spaffed their cash on a core of players and then struggled to scrape a team together when they had a few injuries. Even with their highly paid stars they were bottom of SL and shiiite.

Now they are moaning about having to sort visas, something that is their responsibility. They are complaining about the impact on their sponsors - everyone is in the same boat.

I am pro expansion if it can be done but TWP are not showing themselves as a shining beacon of how to do this. I agree that the RFL must also shoulder some of the blame for letting it get to this point, for example, why were they allowed to sign or be in advanced discussions with new players when they were obviously so f ucked.

Unfortunately we are now in this position where decisions have to be made, when TWP joined the RFL they joined with an all singing, all dancing proposal that majority of people thought good news Rugby league is starting to go places, expanding the system was part of the plan , the RFL was talking about more teams joining from North America. It seems all the planning was built on a bed of sand. This is not only to do with Coronavirus. The demands put on TWP suggest it would never work long time. Stories about players not being paid or paid late, TWP to to pay for the flights of other teams to Canada etc. They could not benefit from SKY money, due to the weather they could not have any home matches until May, spending silly money on so called stars SBW among others, they wanted to be outside of the cap. It was never going to work, the team was rubbish, and led by a coach who said the only way SL would survive would be to expand into North America. Look,who they signed for next year, KW plus possible SW and Myler, R H was also mentioned, the team is becoming a Christmas shopping list. Maybe the directors of the teams in SL are not as daft as we think, maybe they saw it wouldn’t work long term. What do they do, they walk away this season saying they will be OK for next season.
It’s great, simply walk away, no relegation or promotion, no repercussions, they cannot fulfil their fixtures, what happens next season if he cannot afford the players wages etc, will he walk away and say we will join SL the season after next. Whatever happens SL and the RFL should say you must complete your games this year if not they will be repercussions. Simply allowing them to walk away will show what a laughing stock SL has become. Rightly or wrongly this should not be allowed to happen. What makes it worse and is unacceptable is the signing of players for next year and they were talking about who they were signing for next season and they ain’t got two Pennines to scratch their s .

If SL do nothing there is no comeback on other teams simply to walk away until next season. Simply do nothing and Rugby will start to die in the next few years, I understand Sky are already furious at this decision and rightly so. The RFL and SL have now have a excuse for a blank canvas to make the changes that we need so SL and rugby in general can start to grow,

They have lost 12 million in 4 years !

I'm all for expansion but I don't see how a transatlantic team will help. Sure raise the awareness and maybe get a real North American league going but how does that help the game in the UK. Short answer is that it doesn't. If it was going to be a big advantage to the game why are the Aussie clubs not involved and supporting it too, they are far wealthier than their British counterparts.
I don't see how they can say they are not going to fulfil their obligations this year and hope to be involved next year without any penalty. Just because there is no relegation doesn't mean that they can't be demoted. They've royally shafted the super league with their late withdrawal and shouldn't be allowed to get off with it Scott free.
Rant over

Kallum Watkins wife has had a say on the situation. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 0a54be9e28

Kallum Watkins wife has had a say on the situation. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 0a54be9e28

Should Toronto's punishment be any different to all the Chsmpionship and League 1 teams?

People do realise there is 26 professional clubs not fulfilling fixtures and not just 1?

only ones chosen not to turn up. they are a shambles a joke. full of has beens on huge wages and nobodies. and they've struggled to get paid for a while now, going back to last season

They are simply not comparable situations

I don’t think chosen is the correct word

There is not more than one that has made a joke of the competition and as such called into question the integrity. Because of their actions it is likely the rest will suffer further from Sky tv rebates.

But have they done anything different to what Rochdale, West Wales, Hunslet, Whitehaven etc have all done?

Plenty of the Championship clubs still in the Challenge Cup also so the integrity of that competition has to be questioned.

Punish all or none. You cant punish 1 and not the rest.

Yes it is a massive difference. Did any of those sides declare themselves ready to go, allow the publication of a revised fixture list, allow sky tv to arrange tv schedules, then 48 hours later say actually guys we are not up to it?

Come on, let’s get some reality to this. You might want Toronto there, but let’s not post nonsense to excuse them.

Simply put, it’s not going to work, time to put the the plan in the dustbin.
Two options,
Complete the fixtures
Or
It’s finished kick them out.

The RFL and SL cannot be seen to do nothing, they have to show some leadership and make some tough decisions. You simply cannot allow TWP to get away with making these decisions and on the other hand start signing players for next season. They are taking the Michael. Even KW wife has dammed the club, this cannot go on. The players have dues and demands such as mortgages etc, they need paying. It’s becoming a farce, and we are being made a laughing stock.

Argylle will be paying all staff and player wages for the rest of the season.