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ah while harrigan has much to say defending the fragility of a poor winger's mental health, who should be training not reading this, i see damo is still fair game on here.

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Quote: doc-rhino "ah while harrigan has much to say defending the fragility of a poor winger's mental health, who should be training not reading this, i see damo is still fair game on here.'"


He paints the target on and hands out the ammunition. If you ask he'll even buy you the rifle.

We should send that picture to Tory HQ so they can come to the correct conclusion regarding minimum pricing for a unit of alcohol.

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Quote: Harrigan "I like his role out of dummy half though. It's the only place where he still gets to see broken play on a regular basis and he rarely has to pass more than 5 yards. It's win/win.'"


But starting Burrow at hooker means extra pressure is put on the defence as he isn't trusted to defend around the ruck. If it's a win offensively it's a loss in the other equally significant aspect of the game.

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Wouldn't be a problem if the loose forward currently playing at stand off defended where a loose forward is supposed to.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Given we have only seen Kleinhorst in SL it is difficult to tell - you cannot judge a player at this level until they have played at this level - some take to it e.g. Clarkson some don't e.g Bush.

It seems to me Vickery has been fast-tracked and given a chance that Chisholm has been denied without any logical justification.'"


None of the 3 you mention are good enough. The strength in depth is not great. Still doesn't stop us becoming champs but it stops us for being able to finish top of the pile.

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Quote: Harrigan "And yes, it was at HT I posted about Brown. How sky gave him the MOM is beyond me after the 2nd half performance.'"


I'm told Stevo selects the MOM award winner for SKY. Does that explain it ? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: rpw "Given we have only seen Kleinhorst in SL it is difficult to tell - you cannot judge a player at this level until they have played at this level - some take to it e.g. Clarkson some don't e.g Bush.

It seems to me Vickery has been fast-tracked and given a chance that Chisholm has been denied without any logical justification.'"


None of the 3 you mention are good enough. The strength in depth is not great. Still doesn't stop us becoming champs but it stops us for being able to finish top of the pile.'"

It depends what you mean by strength in depth. The salary cap means you can't have 2 or 3 quality spares in each position. You have to try an get reliable players who won't cost the earth to pad out the gaps in between the star players. This is something we have done really well over the years. We have brought in Vickery as cover for our outside backs. We have always used Ablett as centre cover, which makes snese when you see how many reserve forwards we have. It would have been nice to have a Lee Smith to come in, but he was obviously not satisfied with playing in the 21s all season, and when he did get the chance he looked lethargic. On top of that we have several juniors who may or may not be called on, but I'd say we have pretty decent strength in depth compared to most in SL

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There is lots of Strength in depth and some fantastic youngsters playing at Hunslet. The problem is McD keeps the same 19 all season.

Many a club would love to have the 6 players (who are currently at Hunslet on their books)

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Quote: W55ARE "There is lots of Strength in depth and some fantastic youngsters playing at Hunslet. The problem is McD keeps the same 19 all season.

Many a club would love to have the 6 players (who are currently at Hunslet on their books)'"



IMO, Watson isn't ready, Keinhorst hasn't shown up at this level, Hood is 3rd choice but will get his chance at some point this year, Singo also doesnt look ready but theres nothing to say further down the line he will be. Achurch just needs to get his head around the conditions and how we play over here. I think he will be a good signing for us. Who else?

Look, theres nothing wrong with playing youngsters now and again, but it can severely hinder their development, not to mention their confidence if they are thrown in too early. I dont mind what we are doing at all. The guys pushing for the 19 at the moment are all capable enough.

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Quote: rpw "None of the 3 you mention are good enough. The strength in depth is not great. Still doesn't stop us becoming champs but it stops us for being able to finish top of the pile.'"


I disagree re Clarkson - he is an excellent player who has no quality issues at SL level

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I disagree re Clarkson - he is an excellent player who has no quality issues at SL level'"



I agree totally. He is the best line runner at the club and is usually very good in defence. He had a poor game against Hudds which looks to have cost him his place this week but we do have some good back rowers at Leeds.

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Quote: Harrigan "Look, theres nothing wrong with playing youngsters now and again, but it can severely hinder their development, not to mention their confidence if they are thrown in too early.'"


I can not recall one single example of a player deemed a potential future star playing too early and having his development hindered.

It can do nothing but enhance development for a player who the club are working with on a plan for future first team rugby.

Where it would be an issue, is putting someone in due to injuries and that someone not at that time in the clubs plans for future first team rugby. An example would be someone like that Elliot lad that played on the wing one game.

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Quote: Gotcha "I can not recall one single example of a player deemed a potential future star playing too early and having his development hindered.

It can do nothing but enhance development for a player who the club are working with on a plan for future first team rugby.

Where it would be an issue, is putting someone in due to injuries and that someone not at that time in the clubs plans for future first team rugby. An example would be someone like that Elliot lad that played on the wing one game.'"



Chev Walker.

He was played too much too young and it killed his confidence for a couple of years at one point. He could have been one of the best centres in the game but never got above average.

Also, I don't see many stars in the few that are at Hunslet. Singo, maybe down the line, but my point lays especially true for props. Let them develop in their bodies 1st.

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Quote: Harrigan "Chev Walker.

He was played too much too young and it killed his confidence for a couple of years at one point. He could have been one of the best centres in the game but never got above average.'"



Completely dissagree. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that Chev Walker would have been a better player had he stayed in the Juniors.

He would have been one of the best in the game, firstly had he not gone to prison, and secondly had he not gone to union.

Quote: Harrigan "Also, I don't see many stars in the few that are at Hunslet. Singo, maybe down the line, but my point lays especially true for props. Let them develop in their bodies 1st.'"



I don't neccessarily dissagree with your view on the Hunslet boys, but I will repeat my view always held that the line about the props is garbage. Exept in some circumstances (Peacock an example) the best props have usually debuted at a young age. Of course they generally also then go on to wear out quicker.

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Quote: Gotcha "Completely dissagree. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that Chev Walker would have been a better player had he stayed in the Juniors.

He would have been one of the best in the game, firstly had he not gone to prison, and secondly had he not gone to union.

I don't neccessarily dissagree with your view on the Hunslet boys, but I will repeat my view always held that the line about the props is garbage. Exept in some circumstances (Peacock an example) the best props have usually debuted at a young age. Of course they generally also then go on to wear out quicker.'"


Clearly you havent been down to watch Hunslet lately? Do you think Danny McGuire, Rob Burrow, Jordan Tansey, JJB were any better than the dual reg guys at their age? Were they h*ll. Like I have said in previous posts, they were all given an opportunity cos the time fell right for them. They then developed over ten years to what they are now. You make it sound as though the 6 at Hunslet have to be better now than the above mentioned to stand a chance.

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