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Quote: tad rhino "toopi,scruton,ellis and tansey have not been replaced. i don't blame the club over eastwood but the squad is obviously light'"


Agree over Eastwood.

Squad is light and my major concern is a lack of pace out wide which is multiplied by the fact Donalds positional move has obviously had a negative effect.

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Quote: darwoo11 "

Squad is light and my major concern is a lack of pace out wide which is multiplied by the fact Donalds positional move has obviously had a negative effect.'"


Squad is light. Not so much worried about pace on the wings though. Centres then yeah but its not that crucial with the right personell.

Ablett has been our main right centre this year. Let face it he's a 2nd row, depsite been named a centre in a GF this does not make hime a centre, and offers next to nothing going forward. Plus side he's not getting caught out as much defending out wide.

Senior is all but 33 and his pace has been in continued decline. All ready missed 2 or 3 league games. After him the well is dry. He misses a game or miss fires and we struggle against a decent side.

Couple that with our less expansive game style the 3quarters get the ball in less space with less time against better set defences. In this scenarios you need centres who can spark and make things happen. Ablett, an inexperienced kid and a gibson still off pace are not that.

If senior is firing he looks a real threat close to the line..... but thats it. We're a one trick pony with a good left side.

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Quote: G1 "Your opinions are about as consitent as my stools over easter. The fans know fekk all, especially those that post on here.'"


really? your ring must be sore then because i've been saying this since pre season.try not to sit down much today

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Quote: tvoc "Not really, there's just a need to do now what should have been done during the off season. Only now it could be an expensive exercise except as our CEO recently stated [i"I believe it’s an extremely talented group of players who can achieve our objectives this season.”[/i

Our objectives presumably being to not defend our WCC title, be knocked out of the CC at home at the first hurdle, lose to Bradford at Odsal for the first time since 2003 and lose at home to Salford for the first time since 1977.'"


icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif eusa_clap.gif Well said. Nice to see us putting all our focus ino the super league now we're out of the cup... I knew something wasn't right with the squad from the wcc. I said it then and i'll say it again - the squad aint good enough..we're weaker this year than we were last...and something needs to be done to improve the team adn freshen us up... we need a big lift urgently.

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Quote: darwoo11 "Agree over Eastwood.

Squad is light and my major concern is a lack of pace out wide which is multiplied by the fact Donalds positional move has obviously had a negative effect.'"


Partially agree with the likes of Hall and Gibson. I think we just have too many young lads in the back line who are not quite ready yet to be playing week in week out..you've got watkins, ben jones bishop, hall. Then you've go Smith who's meant to be playing at centre who's hardly ever played there which adds up to being a problem. I'm not saying get rid but they're just not good enough at the moment and need to be nurtered along.. some top class expeirience needs to be brought in asap

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Quote: The Magic Wand "No just a better coach and fresher players.'"


So are you saying McNamara is a better coach than Bluey?

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Quote: Marky G "think we need 2 centres because i dont think keef as long left'"


Oh don't you worry, Caddick's cheque book will soon be out but only to sign Keef for Carnegie! icon_evil.gif

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Quote: rpw "Partially agree with the likes of Hall and Gibson. I think we just have too many young lads in the back line who are not quite ready yet to be playing week in week out..you've got watkins, ben jones bishop, hall. Then you've go Smith who's meant to be playing at centre who's hardly ever played there which adds up to being a problem. I'm not saying get rid but they're just not good enough at the moment and need to be nurtered along.. some top class expeirience needs to be brought in asap'"


IMO we are light in the centres and need to sign an experienced international with some years left in him. Ablett is doing alright filling in there but cnt expect to do it any longer.

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Quote: dawsie93 "IMO we are light in the centres and need to sign an experienced international with some years left in him. Ablett is doing alright filling in there but cnt expect to do it any longer.'"
How many experienced international centres with some years left in them are there. And how many would you be willing to pay over the odds for because the are many teams that would be interested in a player of that description.

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Quote: G1 "And the reference to the 1980's should be an indication that the "chequebook" is no guarantee of preventing any of that happening.'"


Leeds never lost at home to Salford at any time during the 80's.

If the chequebook isn't neccessary does that mean the signings of Senior and Ellis weren't neccessary either?

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Quote: tvoc "Leeds never lost at home to Salford at any time during the 80's.

If the chequebook isn't neccessary does that mean the signings of Senior and Ellis weren't neccessary either?'"
Of cause they were and I'm sure if the right player became available GH would be in there in a shot.At this time in the season I doubt any club would be prepared to sell their top players.

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Quote: fanstanningley "Of cause they were and I'm sure if the right player became available GH would be in there in a shot.At this time in the season I doubt any club would be prepared to sell their top players.'"


The right player (the current England first choice right centre) became available last week. Was GH in there like a shot?

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Quote: tvoc "The right player (the current England first choice right centre) became available last week. Was GH in there like a shot?'"


Could they fit him in under the 2010 salary cap if they'd signed him without losing other players they hoped to retain at the end of 2009 (on the basis that Eastwood will be here in 2010).

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Quote: tvoc "The right player (the current England first choice right centre) became available last week. Was GH in there like a shot?'"


He's decent player, but lacks out and out pace. Doubt he'd be at the right price point.
There's an experienced international centre at HKR that they might part with icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tvoc "The right player (the current England first choice right centre) became available last week. Was GH in there like a shot?'"
Not sure GH would think he is the right player.Tony Smith also didn't as why else would he let him go.

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