i would agree. he ups the momentum when he comes on after 20 or so minutes. he will be missed tomorrow. is gilmour fit?

We are most certainly due one.

I wish people posting on this board would quote Spanish balls correctly.
"Cojones" not "Cahones".
Re the actual game I want to see the Rhinos win, I fear they won't but hope that if beaten it's fair & square and not due to poor officiating.
If we do lose then I believe that we will win at home next week against either Hull or Wigan. We should have beaten both of them in our most recent defeats.
So all in all a Leeds v Saints Grand Final. A cracking game in prospect with either team capable of winning, the essence surely of a true sporting occasion.

I think Kirke is a safe option whereas Ablett is just as likely to drop a clanger but has far less talent than Thackray!

What are you basing that on?

I've not seen Ablett make the kind of game changing errors Thackray did in his last two appearances.

Can't remember Ablett dropping a clanger but certainly remember loads from Thackary.

His vivid imagination.

It is unfair to say Thackray cost us 3 points on the run in. Yes he lost the ball in the 1st set after we had scored on a couple of occasions but we should still have been able to defend the next set of 6. Senior knocked on from a tap restart with no defender near him which was a worse error than either of Thackray's but he has retained his place.
Time will tell if TS has made the correct decision and it would be hard to drop anyone after the Wakey game, but it is a harsh call if Thackray has been made scapegoat for a couple of individual errors IMO.

Tomorrow I just can’t see a Saints win for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is their over rated full back who got in this years dream team in favour of Brent Webb who is obviously better than the pair. Brent Webb has a point to prove tomorrow and I feel that he’ll do it well.

We then have the declining star in Sean Long who I am glad is back tomorrow. It keeps that Mattie Smith out of the game and that's make me happy that Leeds don’t have to face another young spark like James Roby.

If Leeds had a choice to have Nick Fozzard or Kylie I think there made their decision ages ago. Fozzard is a good prop but he is only in that dream team because of the commentaries love of St Helens and their unsung players.

Leeds just have a better team all round and I can’t see St Helens beating us for years unless the rumours are true. Jamie Lyon is coming back to St Helens? I very doubt it. He has a point to prove down under and I think he will next season.

I say bring on the battle!

WTF?

ignore him, we try to

Good night on the Stella was it?

And the lesson to be learnt from this post is..............Stay off the drugs before using the internet.

Cant remember Ablett changing games very often but certainly remember Thackray doing so!

For all Thackrays faults he certainly brings far more to the squad than Carl Ablett ever has or ever will.