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Are we in a white rose crisis period?

SL table has Yorkshire sides in 6th (KR), then 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th...

Rhinos Academy out of top 4 I believe, Yorkshire well beaten in origin series... we seem strategically off the pace this side of the hill, and really this is comparing to Wigan, Saints, Wire and Leigh.

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Well taken tries from Frater and Lumb last night against Wigan

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Fraters a bit of a dark horse to make it, he's absolutely rapid, powerful and quite skillful, never been regarded as one of the stars of this group, but he's really developed well over the last 12 month

Been a weird season for our Academy, loads of talent in the backs, but a combination of barley ever plaing our strongest team and a poor set of forwards has seen some poor results.

Lumb
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Frater
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Is a very good, exciting back line

The only 2 forwards who have really impressed me are Ben Littlewood at prop and Hooker Mason Corbett

Last night was actually a decent performance considering Wigan are a good team, 4 of the 9 above wernt playing and we had a man sent off just before half time

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Fraters a bit of a dark horse to make it, he's absolutely rapid, powerful and quite skillful, never been regarded as one of the stars of this group, but he's really developed well over the last 12 month

Been a weird season for our Academy, loads of talent in the backs, but a combination of barley ever plaing our strongest team and a poor set of forwards has seen some poor results.

Lumb
Thchebembe
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N McCormack
Frater
F McCormack
Sinfield

Is a very good, exciting back line

The only 2 forwards who have really impressed me are Ben Littlewood at prop and Hooker Mason Corbett

Last night was actually a decent performance considering Wigan are a good team, 4 of the 9 above wernt playing and we had a man sent off just before half time'"

I was wondering what the respective strengths of the sides were. I know winning isn't everything at that level, but it would be good to see us getting the better of the likes of Saints and Wigan on a regular basis. On the face of it last years Championship winning exploits look like a flash in the pan, but hopefully that's not the case. Agree about Frater.

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Frater has a young Ryan Hall vibe dare I say it.

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Got a bit of Leroy Rivett in his game for me

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Let’s hope I’m right mate!

Excited to see young Qareqare develop he looks a good prospect - has that granite Fijian heritage. Bit of Marcus Bai about him (I know he wasn’t Fijian)…

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Leeds looking at bringing in hooker Harvey Smith from Wakefield, not heard much about him but highly rated apparently?

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Seems highly rated but this is a position we have literally 4 players already stacked up in.

Eseh would be strategically a much more useful signing but maybe yet again we'll go where the easier signing is. We don't seem to fare well whenever another club is interested in the same player as us.

It does again send signals that RH isn't happy with Jarrod O'Connor or Johnson entirely at 9, this coming after the Danny Levi rumours.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Seems highly rated but this is a position we have literally 4 players already stacked up in.

Eseh would be strategically a much more useful signing but maybe yet again we'll go where the easier signing is. We don't seem to fare well whenever another club is interested in the same player as us.

It does again send signals that RH isn't happy with Jarrod O'Connor or Johnson entirely at 9, this coming after the Danny Levi rumours.'"


Given this and rumours of wanting to bring a hooker in, I’ll be surprised if Johnson is still here next year

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If we sign another hooker I think he’ll go yes.

Or, with another off-season he might be starting hooker with the others coming through.

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Quote: KaeruJim "If we sign another hooker I think he’ll go yes.

Or, with another off-season he might be starting hooker with the others coming through.'"

I'm in no way in the know, however I am on nodding acquaintance with somebody who knows Corey's family. I was told when we were in for Levi that Corey would ask for a release if it came to pass. I imagine the same would apply if Powell were to be signed.

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Yes if he was blocked for 2 years by a senior I think he’d go - I’m not sure whether Powell is worth losing younger lads over - Levi fair enough.

If we sign Smith then you’d imagine Johnson would be above in the pecking order so he would stay.

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If we sign Sam Powell, for me that will be a crystal clear message of our ambitions.
Utter mediocrity.

Wigan have done superb business so far ahead of next season.
This would be more excellent business by them.

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Wigan have recruited well and early, but I still think Leeming will be found out there. He's a good pack up and runner, but his defence is too soft, and I don't think Wigan will like that.

Keighran and Walters are obviously good signings.

Powell would be ok, but entirely depends on who we bring in at 7. Smith likes his 9s to be distributors and good defenders, which is where Powells strengths are. He also comes from a winning environment, and has plenty of experience to add to O'connor.

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