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Quote: Giantscorpio "See Danny Brough is up for best player in the world along with Billy Slater and Sonny Bill Williams.
One of the best in the world. Makes McNamara look like a real chump.'"


But as McNamara already has the best player in the world at 7 I reckon he probably feels alright about it. HTH

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Brough wandered off as he wasn't adored.

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Quote: Giantscorpio "See Danny Brough is up for best player in the world along with Billy Slater and Sonny Bill Williams.
One of the best in the world. Makes McNamara look like a real chump.'"

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Ian Kirke only just missed the cut then

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "But as McNamara already has the best player in the world at 7 I reckon he probably feels alright about it. HTH'"


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These Hudds. fans are still very bitter!

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Quote: Giantscorpio "See Danny Brough is up for best player in the world along with Billy Slater and Sonny Bill Williams.
One of the best in the world. Makes McNamara look like a real chump.'"

Not strictly true. He's shortlisted for International Player of the Year.

A bizarre choice for the shortlist. But all it does is highlight Brough's pathetic attitude, that and of course his attitude towards his team mates in the game vs New Zealand.

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Is Kirke playing in this World Cup.? Never actually notice whether he is playing or not: he still makes the same impact.

Playing Chase and Sinfield together all this time to drop one for the crunch match smacks of panic and/or appeasement to another apparent whinger to me. So much for the team building overseas camp. Pathetic.

Either way England will come to the end of their far from convincing campaign this weekend. No one has shone apart from Ferres, Hall, Roby and George Burgess. So much for props having to be 'mature' to be effective.

Footnote: Graham looks on decent form too.

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Last desperate throw of the dice from a coach with limited vision and ability, but as with all sporting contests a bit of luck may go our way. One or two referees decisions may be cast in our favour and if we are smart enough to grasp these we may win.
One school of thought I have heard the past few days is a few people hoping the kiwis will win, this so the final between the kiwis and Aussies will be a better match than us and the Aussies .

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Quote: nantwichexile "Is Kirke playing in this World Cup.? Never actually notice whether he is playing or not

Sam Burgess has been by far our most effective forward.

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Quote: Giantscorpio "See Danny Brough is up for best player in the world along with Billy Slater and Sonny Bill Williams.
One of the best in the world. Makes McNamara look like a real chump.'"


Danny Brough wasn't available for selection for the world cup as he became really, really very Scottish indeed, coincidentally around the same time he was left out of a mid-season training squad.

Well, actually he became Scottish again. Sort of re-Scottish.

It makes somebody look like a chump, but this time it isn't the England coach.

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Brough's nomination for "International Player of the Year" is comical.

IMO he's not exactly taken this World Cup by the scruff of the neck, and that represents his only international rugby of the last 12 months. If there was a desperate need to pick someone from the Home Nations, then why not Ryan Hall or Sam Tomkins who have both had good World Cup campaigns for England?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Brough's nomination for "International Player of the Year" is comical.

IMO he's not exactly taken this World Cup by the scruff of the neck, and that represents his only international rugby of the last 12 months. If there was a desperate need to pick someone from the Home Nations, then why not Ryan Hall or Sam Tomkins who have both had good World Cup campaigns for England?'"


If (big if) you were going to pick a Scotland player on international performances, surely Matty Russell would have been the choice.

Wes Naiquama is probably my pick of players outside the "big 3" countries.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Brough's nomination for "International Player of the Year" is comical.

IMO he's not exactly taken this World Cup by the scruff of the neck, and that represents his only international rugby of the last 12 months. If there was a desperate need to pick someone from the Home Nations, then why not Ryan Hall or Sam Tomkins who have both had good World Cup campaigns for England?'"



Tomkins has been a big disappointment, up to now, considering the expectations of him. He's looked a liability defensively. Burgess, Graham, and yes Sinfield, have had much better tournaments thus far.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Is Kirke playing in this World Cup.? Never actually notice whether he is playing or not

George Burgess was great against Australia but pretty quiet since. Chris Hill has probably been our best prop......but then again George suits your "young player/prop agenda" much better icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "Tomkins has been a big disappointment, up to now, considering the expectations of him. He's looked a liability defensively. Burgess, Graham, and yes Sinfield, have had much better tournaments thus far.'"


Tomkins hasn't been a disappointment but at the same time he hasn't hit top gear, he got through the group stage by being ok without being anything more. He showed glimpses of magic against France and hopefully he can show more against the Kiwis and Australia.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Tomkins hasn't been a disappointment but at the same time he hasn't hit top gear, he got through the group stage by being ok without being anything more. He showed glimpses of magic against France and hopefully he can show more against the Kiwis and Australia.'"



What are these moment of magic in defence? Let me repeat, he's been a liability defensively. One glimpse of magic can not make up for brain farts.

That was why I labelled him a disappointment so far. So far as in, he potentially has another two games to step up that gear you mention, he certainly hasn't looked one of our better players so far as I responded to. But for me the issue isn't offence, but defence.

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