We employed Crosby for years just out of compassion, and I don't think there's been any suggestion we weren't going to look after Ward either.

Do you really think Leeds is treating, or has treated Ward unfairly through his time at the club?

Some on here seem determined to find fault with the club at every step honestly. There is plenty to criticise in where we are with the playing squad, but in terms of the class and compassion the club shows on a regular basis, I don't agree they deserve negativity.

There’s definitely something going on, given the context in normal circumstances the club would have announced something at this stage.

Reports suggest 10 players are set to sue over concussio related injuries. No idea whether Stevie's one of them but I'd assume the club would have been advised not to comment if he were

I'm not in the know.

To put a more positive spin on it then maybe, just maybe, the club is continuing to pay him on the Furlough scheme to do the best for him and that is why nothing can be announced.

I put IF.

If you cant teach them to tackle, what they going to do when they reach open age and dont know the proper techniques. coming up against someone whos been playing for twenty years against someone who hasnt spent any time developing a fundamental element of the game.
I appreciate what they are trying to do but the method is all wrong

By the way, on the topic of concussion it might be worth checking out the latest "Good the Bad and the Rugby" podcast on YouTube. If you like the guys on it is another thing but the whole 2 hours is dedicated to concussion in the game and the legal stuff going on in Union at the moment. Jamie Cudmore is a guest (Canadian forward who played in France until recently) , he is currently suing former club Clermont. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... stice.html Sounds like he has a good case.

By the way, on the topic of concussion it might be worth checking out the latest "Good the Bad and the Rugby" podcast on YouTube. If you like the guys on it is another thing but the whole 2 hours is dedicated to concussion in the game and the legal stuff going on in Union at the moment. Jamie Cudmore is a guest (Canadian forward who played in France until recently) , he is currently suing former club Clermont. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... stice.html Sounds like he has a good case.

Indeed. Tackling is introduced in stages in RU. It was part of some major changes made around 8/9 years ago. They start just grabbing then progress to full tackling. The research shows that mental development is important first so kids understand what you are trying to teach them.

This is an interesting situation. Most of the conditions are sadly ones which we can acquire naturally without playing rugby. Cause and effect is hard to prove, and negligence even harder.

Personally I would be surprised if negligence can be shown. However it does raise serious questions now when the science is seeming to indicate there might be an increased risk due to playing contact sport (and not just in rugby). Most team sports will involve the risk of physical trauma; I think sensibly it's about understanding the risks better and taking measures to mitigate them - which is what we've been seeing with the HIA and protocols introduced. Maybe more needs to be done.

You can also see the anger and frustration from the players' point of view.

That's the guy.

In Cudmore's case he was concussed in the Heineken cup semi final and failed his HIA, then the club doctor came back in and told him he needed to go back on because their second row had been injured. He got another bang and concussion. Four weeks later (after being unable to train) he played in the final and almost immediately clashed heads massively with Billy Vunipola and was badly concussed. He was ill for months afterwards and still suffers with cognitive problems.
The club doctor was clearly negligent and breached protocols - they now have neutral doctors. Expert witnesses (neurologists) were appointed by the French court and ruled that there was a case to answer.
That's a very specific case and he has evidence that protocols were broken and has medical evidence to show the direct effects.

Sheesh, I am genuinely shocked that was deemed acceptable and was allowed to happen.

It’s been confirmed this morning that Stevie Ward has retired from rugby league