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Quote: nathancroucher "Absolutely pathetic reaction from some hypocritical Leeds fans. The incident seems to have wound them up but the Leeds players are hardly angels are they? I assume you are mostly adults but you need to grow up Leeds fans and stop crying about it. Are you offended by Sam Tomkins actions? Are you offended?'"


Im not sure im that offended, but we are talking about the image of the game nationally, this could affect the wider audiance as it was on national TV, I think you are missing the point, st made a gesture, also JT made a gesture although it is uncertain as to what the jt gesture was, this type of thing has no place in the game.

There is a difference to celebrating a try and being abusive to opposition fans ! on national tv, this was a calculated action from a player who just cant help himself ! rant over.

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Tomkins is a horrible, nasty little toe rag, but on playing merit he deserves to be picked. Would the Aussies drop a player from St George because the fans of Manly didn't like him.

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Although never playing for GB, Lee Briers stuck the finger up at Wigan fans... as did Eastmond to his own set of fans.


Away from the BBC coverage, how did any Leeds fans see it anyway? none were there!

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Hysteria about Tomkins aside, if players having a go at the refs is a problem its up to the refs themselves to do something about it - start with sin bins and then send them off.

RL internationals are a joke in part because far too many fans only care about their clubs.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "So, what can you do ?

I know some of you will have got tickets for the England games already and that's fair enough .... But for those of you that haven't and were thinking of going, do you really want to pay your hard earned cash towards someone that shows that level of contempt towards you ?

Is Sam Tompkins worthy of representing this nation on the back of those sort of antics and abuse towards match officials ?

The ball is very much in the RFL's court and if they fail to deal with this matter, then our response is to not support the 'national' team.

You might also want to consider boycotting England shirts and merchandise (they don't look very good anyway) and / or withdrawing your email address and details from RFL mailing lists.

Wembley is going to look very big and very empty without the thousands of Leeds fans that otherwise would be there .... And let's see the RFL try and fill it with Wigan 'bandwaggoners' and Hunslet fans etc. They need us down there far more than we need them (you could always watch the national side getting hammered on Sky, if you're that interested)'"


That is one fantastic "bite your nose off to spite your face" dummy spit. Congratulations!

We lost the final and an opposition player is annoying, lets try to ruin the sport we love!

Then again, it would probably be a better atmosphere without the Leeds fans booing England players, so feel free to stay away and watch it on TV mucker.

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Was there a match on Saturday?
Judging by the reaction everywhere, people are more concerned about someone puting the V's up.
The publicity generated by this has started grabbing headlines in the South. Shame it took this act rather than the final itself to generate publicity down there, but you know what they say - Theres no such thing as bad publicity.

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Quote: uglybug "Was there a match on Saturday?
Judging by the reaction everywhere, people are more concerned about someone puting the V's up.
The publicity generated by this has started grabbing headlines in the South. Shame it took this act rather than the final itself to generate publicity down there, but you know what they say - Theres no such thing as bad publicity.'"


And what about the abuse of the match officials ?

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Quote: FearTheVee "That is one fantastic "bite your nose off to spite your face" dummy spit. Congratulations!

We lost the final and an opposition player is annoying, lets try to ruin the sport we love!

Then again, it would probably be a better atmosphere without the Leeds fans booing England players, so feel free to stay away and watch it on TV mucker.'"


Well, actually I got the idea from your players ... Who didn't seem to want to compete when wearing a national jersey, by virtue that they were sharing the same dressing room with half the Leeds team that had turning them over in the Grand Final.

Always a giveaway that there's trouble at t'mill, when the RFL put out a press statement that there's no squad disunity problems with the national team.

I'd have my work cut out to match the Saints players, who were boycotting the national side whilst they were still actually playing in it ....

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Quote: uglybug "Was there a match on Saturday?
Judging by the reaction everywhere, people are more concerned about someone puting the V's up.
The publicity generated by this has started grabbing headlines in the South. Shame it took this act rather than the final itself to generate publicity down there, but you know what they say - Theres no such thing as bad publicity.'"


Agree 100%. Which is why Tomkins would be advised to show more maturity in future. His actions have taken the gloss off a good Wigan performance in the best final for a number of years. He's harmed you far more than he has us IMO.

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Quote: uglybug "
The publicity generated by this has started grabbing headlines in the South. Shame it took this act rather than the final itself to generate publicity down there, but you know what they say - Theres no such thing as bad publicity.'"


You are Col.Gadaffi and I claim my £5 prize ...

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "Well, actually I got the idea from your players ... Who didn't seem to want to compete when wearing a national jersey, by virtue that they were sharing the same dressing room with half the Leeds team that had turning them over in the Grand Final.

Always a giveaway that there's trouble at t'mill, when the RFL put out a press statement that there's no squad disunity problems with the national team.

I'd have my work cut out to match the Saints players, who were boycotting the national side whilst they were still actually playing in it ....'"


Come now, it's been a few days since the final. You can back away from your rant quietly and nobody will mind.

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I'm not surprised Leeds fans are planning on boycotting the Four Nations. They couldnt even be bothered to turn up to support their team at Wembley!!! I hope they do boycott the Four Nations - it will save us the embarrassment of having the Aussies laughing their t*ts off at us booing one of our own players!!! icon_surprised.gifops:

Ryan Bailey - TMFMIS?????? Do me a favour - didnt see him squaring up to Lima or Coley!!! WIMP! icon_mad.gif

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "At least the incident is being 'invetigated' :


Everybody trys to milk penalties he just does it better than most.

and look at Danny McGuire and baily before you have ago at Tomkins, you can say the same about McGuire..Great player on his day i dont think any fan doesnt admit that...but his sportsmanship is just poor Much dirtier players than Tomkins, McGuire at the final whistle was just shocking and pathetic, Bailey always gets involved in stuff that has nothing to do with him he should of been sent off, i think i recall about 5 warnings in the game just for him. and tomkins was silly for what he did but in all of this i see the Pot calling the kettle black. no need to drag such a silly little incedent on for so long.

Also James graham is a whining little so and so and screams in the refs face more than anyone...Doesnt mean any of them deserve to be boo'd when wearing an England shirt so i really dont see how you can understand someone doing that to an international...

Also what about Bailey headbutting a player and offering 4 of them out? (if its true thats even worse than what tomkins did and i'd hope bailey would be up for similar to tomkins.)

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