I've avoided this thread since its existence, but we really are a S#!t side. Pi$$ poor for the talent we have.

Do we have ANY, ANY, attacking plays?

To my eye I've seen far better attacking structure in the amateur leagues and that seriously is no exaggeration. Our attack is solely passing along a line of 13, hoping for a missed tackle, or end the play with the centre dropping off the winger on the inside, then play individual brilliance off load mayhem. A load of e.

I've been supporting Leeds for 13 years. A season ticket holder for every one of those. Never thought I'd consider not getting one and not supporting my side. But if Heatherington and Co are in bed with McDermott that much, and seriously think that is the best rugby the so called best ever Leeds squad can come up with, then I'm not going to be gullible enough and disrespected into buying into the money making scheme.

You are not far wrong mate. We have had some extremely good players at this club during this successful era, players that can win matches on their own. During McDermotts reign that's what has happened. He has relied on those special players for individual brilliance to get us to our goals. We are not coached as a team, and never have been under his tenure.

I do think he is learning in the role as he goes along, and IMO is improving in areas. However, until we see something on the pitch that shows anything forming tactics, I just do not know what he does with them through the week.

Sorry to butt in

With 6 games to go you're top of the league and in the Challenge Cup Final, McDermott has a track record of Grand Final wins and World Club Championships under his belt

What are you complaining about?

Really?

What a pathetic lot some of you are! Currently top of the league, two Grand Final wins since this thread was started and you still keep it going... What the hell do you want?

Face it, you have probably been the best side bar none under Brian Mac and you still want more. Give the bloke a break. Yes, your squad are getting older (sadly that comes to us all) but the likes of Peacock, Burrow, even Sinfield are still top drawer (imo). Your kids are coming through really good and the future probably looks better for Leeds than any other SL team due to the excellent management of Hetherington and Caddick.

Oh my God, I'm doing your job - supporting Leeds - [sizeAND I'M A CAS FAN![/size Get a grip and enjoy the rugby instead of bitching for the sake of it.

We know how to defend, close games out and let individuals (Hardaker, Burrow, Watkins) do some individual brilliance (Not team coached) to win the games.

Simple questions for you:

You watch Leeds' displays and think that is the best rugby those names can come up with?
Along the line following the ball stuff. ZERO dummy runners. Joel Moon receiving the ball and either getting bundled into touch or drop Hall off on the inside time and time again, that is really the best we can do?

I was in Ronnies bar yesterday and two Cas fans behind me in the queue were saying " Leeds are nowt special at all". 100% correct and thats embarrassing. And lets face it with the backs we have got we should be blitzing teams off the park, not be hearing that.

We're bloody $hite. Shaun Wane must laugh his socks off at McDermott.

90% of Leeds fans must agree that McDermott doesn't get any where near the best out of the squad.

I don't anymore.
Teams are learning to stick with Leeds. Stick with them, don't get fatigued, keep following the basics and you wont be far off. Teams can spread the 13 out in defence knowing zero threat is coming from the middle. Its sad but its true. If McDermott can coach any sort of attack going down the middle the defence will get sucked then Watkins & Moon might stand a chance.

Just pray that an assistant is employed that has a say in attack.

Yes...Leeds havn't got an assistant coach. How ridiculous does that sound. We have Barry Eaton from the Worldly Hunslet helping us out on match days.... Woopie F'in do.

Yes I'm fed up today...

The problem with Mcdermott is that everyone looks at his GF wins and says 'whats your problem?' While thats understandable its not really want I think a lot of fans are getting at that want him gone, me included.

With the team and squad we have at our disposal we should be at least 50% better than we are if not more. Last night was a prime example. How often did we use the 'slide to the left' move and see Moon and Hall get crushed on the touchline. How did Peacock end up taking a last gasp drop goal to win the game?

Just two examples of the sort of poor coaching and poor planning that are becoming our hallmark.

Dont even get me started on replacing players that are clearly past their prime.

The way we play and the way we have won GF's in the past is being replaced by the type of fast energy, attack in bunches play Cas showed last night.

Evolve or die, and we look like a sickly dog at the moment.

Well I understand some of your comments / concerns and think the pack could do with beefing up a bit BUT you've still got a darn good team, and I can think of 90% of other non-Leeds fans who would love to be in your position.

As a Wire fan i wouldn't swap him for TS and I can imagine Wigan and maybe Hudds wouldn't swap their coaches either but most of the rest.....

66 Pages.

You so-called fans should be ashamed.

I wonder after stating that McDermott should hand in his resignation after a narrow 2 point lost at a resurgent Wakefield whilst missing several key men.....if tvoc wants Tony Smith to quit after losing by 14 to an extremely out of form Widnes.

lets see how the season ends. if no finals are reached i think questions would rightly be asked if mcdermotts time was up