Since I first saw him at academy level I believe Sutcliffe could make a very good ball playing#13.

Isn’t big enough or have the balls for being in the pack in my opinion.

He can't pass a ball.

Would like to see him in the 2nd row though. He is tough and awkward to put down. Think he could go well there though would clearly be a risk and tbh may just be another position he can play rather than one he can excel at.

I genuinely fear for him and think he just be one season away from drifting down the league and into the championship.

I don’t have a problem with that. I have a problem with him not being punished properly during the game.

Exactly. Ratboy knew exactly what he was doing. BUt he put his hand up & acknowledged it was an accident. Bololx. If Ben Westwood had attempted decapitation of Ratboy then held his hand up he would have been seeing red, rather than a deserved knighthood.

I could see him leaving us and going somewhere else where it will click in a certain position and he will finally fulfil potential. Maybe he needs to do that to progress now. See what Furner thinks, a new coach can work wonders sometimes for a player and Sutcliffe has known nothing but the Mac regime really.

Just look at how Holbrook, Powell, Price have improved their teams & individual players. I think there is a SL player in Sutcliffe. He just strikes me as someone who it all came too easy to. A bit of a Richie Mathers. For those of us with a fraction of the talent it enrages me watching them waste it away.

Sh#@house Westwood got away with much worse when he commited GBH on Blake Green a few years ago so thats BS.

A little tap, the sort of incident that was commonplace. The ref missed it, which is why it was put on report later & he received a ban & a fine. Going in with the knees on a player is potentially far worse.

Wasn't it Westwood who smashed Sutty's jaw in the first 5 minutes of the home game last season? Makes Ablett look clean.

yep and only got put on report. swings and roundabouts. Tomkins should have gone for 10 still as two offenses in quick succession, Wigan still would have won as Warrington had little to offer in attack, Wigan happy to grind it out, Wigan down to 12 men made of opened the game up a bit though.

So if Tomkins got a ban what does Hicks get?

What I don't like about this is the ref saw and dealt with both incidents yet then Tomkins gets a ban. Personally I think that is wrong. The ref should deal with this stuff on the pitch and dish out yellow/red cards as appropriate so the opposition team benefit.

All too late now but if, as the rfl panel suggest, Tompkins should have been off