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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "I think you are unfair to highlight the free ticket promotion. That was tremendously successful in the late 1990s in exposing RL to a completely new market. Bradford became the best supported club in SL for a time, and this wouldn't have happened without a bit of a stimulus. At the same time Leeds were in a very precarious position and could have done a Bradford if Caddick and GH hadn't come in'"
no issue with free tickets, leeds did it,
but the bulls kept giving out so many year after year after year, and never built on it, that why would people buy a ticket??
i very rarely paid to go to odsal for years, tickets were so easy to come by
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International Star | 11412 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Nope that is just something you have made up in your head.
I haven't apportioned blame anywhere.
As I said, not every club is the same. What works for leeds may be damaging for bradford.'"
And whose fault is it if the things that worked for the likes of Leeds, Wigan and Saints didn't work for Bradford? Nothing was stopping them after their 2005 GF win from continuing to be a top 4 team apart from their own doing of being badly run.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "And whose fault is it if the things that worked for the likes of Leeds, Wigan and Saints didn't work for Bradford? Nothing was stopping them after their 2005 GF win from continuing to be a top 4 team apart from their own doing of being badly run.'"
Its nobody's fault. Bogeymen and villains are for children and fools.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Its nobody's fault. Bogeymen and villains are for children and fools.'"
Didn't realise people who run professional sports team are bogeymen. Oh well let's pretend the people involved with running Bradford over the years have all done a fantastic mistake free job just to suite Smokey's agenda.
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| Success in business is a confluence of luck, circumstance and skill. There are many very very skillful businessmen who have failed because of luck and circumstance, and some pretty damn average ones have been hugely successful in spite of their decisions.
Its easy for anyone to sit in judgement after the fact and point out mistakes and say what should have been different, even someone with no experience or knowledge of running a business can do so. Cant they
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| one bad, or unlucky, owner yes. but how many is it now? 3 or 4?
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International Star | 6848 | No Team Selected |
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Jul 2012 | 12 years | |
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| Quote: tad rhino "one bad, or unlucky, owner yes. but how many is it now? 3 or 4?'"
Indeed. Again, it's the true fans i feel for, they have been let down terribly over the last decade, it should never have been allowed to get to this point.
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International Chairman | 18060 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote: tad rhino "one bad, or unlucky, owner yes. but how many is it now? 3 or 4?'"
Why would a very clever businessman invest in a business like this?
The quality of the business attracts an appropriate level of manager/owner - this is a rotten business with zero prospects of it ever being much else. Why would anyone risk their reputation on a lost cause - it is only the desperate who see an opportunity to pay themselves a serious wedge until the money runs out. That is what has happened at this club.
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| Quote: tad rhino "one bad, or unlucky, owner yes. but how many is it now? 3 or 4?'"
that should point out to us that these issues are something deeper.
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| Quote: tad rhino "one bad, or unlucky, owner yes. but how many is it now? 3 or 4?'"
Bradford are merely a symptom of a much deeper malaise in the sport.
They aren't the cause of that malaise.
Otherwise, you may as well blame all poor people for being poor.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Success in business is a confluence of luck, circumstance and skill. There are many very very skillful businessmen who have failed because of luck and circumstance, and some pretty damn average ones have been hugely successful in spite of their decisions.
Its easy for anyone to sit in judgement after the fact and point out mistakes and say what should have been different, even someone with no experience or knowledge of running a business can do so. Cant they
Yes you do it all the time with telling us all how the sport should be run, safe in the knowledge that you can say your ideas would work because we'll never find out.
Ahh so Bradford have just been unlucky then, bless.
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| Printer posted:
"Yes you do it all the time with telling us all how the sport should be run, safe in the knowledge that to can say your ideas would work because we'll find out."
I've tried very hard to p this sentence but I admit you've got me beaten with this one.
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| Quote: Old Feller "Printer posted
Sorry missed out a word, should've been
"Safe in the knowledge that you can say your ideas would work because we'll NEVER find out."
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| Quote: William Eve "Bradford are merely a symptom of a much deeper malaise in the sport.
They aren't the cause of that malaise.
Otherwise, you may as well blame all poor people for being poor.'"
That's official government policy isn't it?
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| Quote: TOMCAT "That's official government policy isn't it?'"
It's been official government neoliberal ideology and policy since 1979 under Tory, New Blairite Labour and Tory/Lib-Dem Coalition.
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