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Quote: mannt "Lots of hysteria about this.

Yes it was a "head butt", but this one, judged on its own doesn't deserve a long ban. 1 or 2 games at most. Sinfield lost his head for a moment and reacted. It happens and will continue to happen in a lot of matches.

My personal view, as a Wigan fan, if that happens 15 mins earlier, sending off sufficient, as it was late in the game 1 to 2 games. No length of ban will punish Sinfield more than he will punish himself.

From a selfish point of view, wanting my team to win, ban him for life as it gives Wigan more of a chance of beating Leeds with him not playing. but on a serious note, lets all get over it, normally a fair player that doesn't do things like this, something must have been said to provoke. Lets also remember that Luke Dorn also says that these things happen in a game some times, doesn't make Sinfield a bad man.

Good luck for the Semi, will be cheering for the Rhinos in the final hopefully.'"


Bloody hell fire...a Wigan fan with common sense!

Top post fella.

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Quote: G1 "The red was correct. I hope it gets graded a to b and they're lenient to reflect Kevins exemplary 14 year career. Only sad thing was that it was ajourneyman no mark like Dorn that did for Kev and blotted his copy book. 2 matches seems about fair.'"


You logical breathe of fresh air.

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What's worse calling someone a faggot or head butting someone?

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Huge over reaction to this because it's Leeds and because it's Sinfield. I was astounded by the length of ban in the Gareth Hock incident this week, having seen it live I don't think it was as bad as the video makes out in slow motion. I hope the RFL disciplinary boys don't get too carried away again and try make a name for themselves. 1-2 games max.

Remember this is RL, not football.

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Quote: G1 "The red was correct. I hope it gets graded a to b and they're lenient to reflect Kevins exemplary 14 year career. Only sad thing was that it was ajourneyman no mark like Dorn that did for Kev and blotted his copy book. 2 matches seems about fair.'"



I am not sure you can do the grading based on previous record. I think the grading is what it is, but the exemplary record is taken into account when deciding on punishment, hence it could be lower than the minimum of the grading guideline.

For me it was a red card, but I have been head butted before, and the aggressor also, and that wasn't a head but. He used his head to defend himself, yes, and rightly punished. But that wouldn't even be considered an head butt by a girls class in kindergarten.

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Quote: Fearless' Headguard "Speaking as a Cas fan I'd say it was something and nothing...you see far worse most weeks and Sinfield has never been 'that' type of player...neither is Dorn for that matter. Similarly much as it would be useful for us to see him suspended (ideally until after the weekend of the 10th August
If it'd happened whilst the others were still out then maybe, but we've got everybody back now in the pivots and even his mate JJB so I'm not really sure about that tbh.

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On the point of intent - IM - Leeds tinted - O Kev lent in to go head-to-head with Dorn, Dorn reacted by moving his head away (some may say 'bottled it') instead of meeting Kev head-to-head. This resulted in Kev slapping the Glasgow kiss on the pension topping Dorn.

Head butt, yes - intent to cause harm, no. Two game ban, £300 fine, job done.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Huge over reaction to this because it's Leeds and because it's Sinfield. I hope the RFL disciplinary boys don't get too carried away again and try make a name for themselves. 2 games max.'"


Totally unexpected and out of character from a player with an hitherto impeccable career more frustration than intent, two match ban, end of.

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'ang 'im, naturally.... =/

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Grade C offence IMO.
egp and/or exemplary record will give him a two match ban.

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Worst headbutt ever, 2 games

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Does anyone know how the disciplinary process works with reference to an epg? For example, does the panel sit, make a decision, inform the player of the outcome then let them enter an epg or does the epg have to be entered before the panel sit?

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Let's be honest here it was not a head butt to give a proper head butt you grab him by the shirt collar and pull him towards you hitting his nose with your forehead as you go into you opponent I think with his past clean record being a Leeds legend SENDING OFF SUFFICIENT and I am a HKR ex player and supporter

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Quote: easthull4 "Let's be honest here it was not a head butt to give a proper head butt you grab him by the lapels and pull him towards you hitting his nose with your forehead as you go into you opponent I think with his past clean record being a Leeds legend SENDING OFF SUFFICIENT and I am a HKR ex player and supporter'"


"grab him by the lapels"?

Did you used to play in a bleeding tuxedo?

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Kris Welham received no ban or fine and wasn't sent off for a headbutt back in February.

The precedent has been set.

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