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Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
At to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions ask job

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Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
As to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions asked job

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Quote: tad rhino "mcguire did absolute jack poop. burrow looked dangerous with ball in hand and i suggest you watch his kicking again. by far our best half back. mcguire offered nothing whatsoever'"


Totally agree, McGuire did absolutely nothing and was lucky not to get penalised as all he seems to do in the tackle these days is constantly niggle.
Sutcliffe should have been on from the start.

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Quote: tad rhino "mcguire did absolute jack poop. burrow looked dangerous with ball in hand and i suggest you watch his kicking again. by far our best half back. mcguire offered nothing whatsoever'"


Quite right Tad

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Quote: Wayne12 "Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
As to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions asked job'"


Saying it twice doesn't make it right. In fact it highlights the lack of a balanced view

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3times now thanks

Oh believe me I have balance

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Quote: Wayne12 "3times now thanks

Oh believe me I have balance'"


No I don't believe you having read your posts

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If only you knew. LOL

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Quote: Wayne12 "If only you knew. LOL'"


Care to elaborate, I'm intrigued?

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Not really but I do know a about rugby league from an official perspective

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Quote: Wayne12 "Not really but I do know a about rugby league from an official perspective'"


No worries.

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Some very poor coaching decisions most of the season with regards to team selection. Whilst we had our fair share of injuries it seems the coach has not planned well enough for their replacements. JJB should not have played last week or this week we had an able replacement in Singleton. Whilst McGuire kicked the winning goal last week and became a hero. He too should not of played last week or this week. Burrow runs sideways more than forward and Seinfeld is getting slower each week. We play without a recognised hooker which for a champion team is a flipping joke. Kylie needs to retire now enough is enough. The worlds best winger needs to find some pace. As stated previously Watkins should have been subbed. Moon,Ablett JP take a bow and I will admit Kirk played well for the amount of time he had on the pitch. Clarkson was poor again . No organisation against a Wigan team who were only slightly above average last night against a Leeds team who played with guts but nothing else.

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What is a major concern, as the play offs have demonstrated and for most of the super league season,is we do not have a cutting edge against the better teams and the majority of time are clueless in the opposition 20 metres zone.
This has been evident for a while and is a concern that the coach or players are unable to rectify this weakness.

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Certainly the rugby gods have not smiled on us injury wise this season, never the less full credit to the boys for courage and commitment last night and the saints game.
To think we are still playing without a specialist hooker is beyond belief, this as I never tire of saying creates an unbalanced team. The team team has gradually got weaker since the days of senior,Webb and a young Danny Mc Guire not forgetting big Ali . Yet we won last years grand final,looking at last nights match Wigan are a good solid workmanlike side , with Tompkins the stand out flair player.
With a fully fit team we may well have beat them, teams obviously go through peaks and trough periods it's how long your trough period is that is crucial .
Some harsh decisions must be taken before next season, Kylie and Danny Mc Guire along with Mc Shane must come under scrutiny.
Early in the next season we should be injecting youth into the team,even if we win nowt but use it as a springboard for the season after .
I will be supporting the wire next week as I think they are the better footballing team, plus I like tony smith he is a real good all round guy. By the way I don't hate Wigan or any other team and whatever our performances or fate are next season I will carry on supporting Leeds as I have done for forty years.

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Quote: STEVENM "What is a major concern, as the play offs have demonstrated and for most of the super league season,is we do not have a cutting edge against the better teams and the majority of time are clueless in the opposition 20 metres zone.
This has been evident for a while and is a concern that the coach or players are unable to rectify this weakness.'"


The go-to guys in the opposition 20 over our best years were Senior, Lauititi and Webb. Those were the ones who would break the better defences.

Senior's threat has been replaced by Watkins, when fit. We have nothing like Lauititi or Webb available to us at the moment.

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