I too find it difficult to understand why it would ever be the clubs responsibility to fund legal advice for two of their employees who have allegedly committed an offence out of work time...

I'm certain that if the majority on here got sent to prison for a drunken brawl they wouldn't have a job when they got out nevermind the CEO turning up to court as a character witness and releasing a statement of support after the guilty verdict.

Its the club's job to get these young guys earning not a lot the best advice and representation - something Leeds failed to achieve. If you speak to Chev - who I think is a pretty level headed down to earth guy - he really resents the way the club virtually washed their hands of them. Yes the let them play on after but that was only to stop other clubs getting their hands on them.

Let's compare the actions of Leeds Utd with Bowyer and Woodgate and GH and Walker and Bailey.

It could argued that what Bowyer and Woodgate did was far worse - yet guess what they walk free why do you think that was?

I appreciate it was well before your short time as a supporter but the club could have down significantly more than they did.

How they ended up in prison for something that goes on numerous time in the centre of Leeds every weekend defies belief.

It probably was far worse i agree. I also don't agree they should have defended them either. As WF Rhino says, in any other walk of life your employer would not be willing to provide legal aid out of work time, especially drunken disorderly on the lash with your mates.

No he didn't, he was responding (brilliantly) to William's straw grasper of a post.

Keep up Printer. Everything's GH fault, apart from those things that are McDermott's fault.

Not forgetting... Sheeple & 911 was an inside job.

Did Bowyer and Woodgate deserve to walk free? Did Walker and Bailey? Ever heard of taking responsibility for your actions? Why did Bowyer and Woodgate get better advice/representation.....anybody would think football had a lot more money in that sport than RL.

You say it's the clubs job to get these guys the best advice and representation.....well it's also the players jobs not to get themselves arrested for drunken brawls so they failed in their roles much worst first.

The people to blame for Walker and Bailey being jailed are......Walker and Bailey.

Interesting you should say that - as having known both players well from well before that incident, I have the complete opposite impression. Both players and their families have expressed nothing but gratitude and praise for the way Leeds supported them during and after that whole eopisode.
And for one of them, that support continued for over a decade, despite many other incidents along the way.

That can't be true as Sal tells us that Walker is full of resentment that the club didn't get Kavanagh QC to defend him.

The difference in the way Warrington have handled Sandow with the way the malevolent, threatening, revengeful and litigious Leeds have handled Segeyaro is stark.

Warrington, although disappointed, have moved on quickly and immediately got around to seeking a replacement. Leeds OTOH have moaned, groaned, spat the dummy, threatened, sanctioned and done sweet FA about a replacement apart from announce a Plan B, whatever that is.

Even Kavanagh QC might have struggled to defend an assault captured in full on CCTV. Which the other one wasn't, meaning that the identities of some of the alleged perpetrators could not be established beyond reasonable doubt.

friend who worked at the rhinos back then said if you'd seen the video you'd understand why walker and bailey went down.it was horrendous.

as for Woodgate/bowyer, there was no cctv evidence and frankly little other evidence either.
the two aren't comparable

You forgot to reply to illy, here's his post again so you don't have to go searching....

Maybe wire should have helped resolve the issues that made it impossible for him to remain in the area?

Warrington's focus has been on the positive contributions Sandow made at the club whilst understanding the personal challenges and reasons why he's not returning to the club. They've been proactive and moved on.

Leeds focus has been spiteful, with little acknowledgement since of the positive contributions Segeyaro made at the club last season. There's been little attempt at reaching an understanding. The club have been reactive, they've not yet moved on and are threatening legal action instead.

Which they should.

Would Smith saying this count as all positive

“In terms of off-field, there will be a few less grey hairs around the place, that’s for sure,” Smith told TotalRL.

“He was OK for most of it, and at sometimes he was a pain in the proverbial. He was a fair mix, he was certainly a character, as everyone had worked out.

“He brightened us up at different stages and was exciting to watch for a while, but he became a bit unreliable. For him to ring, well not ring, to inform the club, none of it is surprising to us."

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Also I don't hear anything about Sandow doing it because he's trying to join another team (isn't he trying to start a boxing career?), if he was Wire might feel quite differently.

I don't see where Leeds have been particularly worse or better than any other club with regard to player treatment. Maybe we haven't always recruited well and sometimes had to deal with the consequences of players who don't understand professionalism.
For me Segeyaro was a poor signing from word go. The mistake was (deliberately IMO) not seeing the obvious, that he'd go home and not want to come back. After that mistake it's hard to see what the club can do that doesn't look bad in some way.

If Leeds had done what Warrington have done and Warrington had done the Leeds thing your comments would have been opposite too . Oh why did I bite?

Segeyaro was a poor signing.

Think we've heard it all now.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38015298Australian half-back Chris Sandow's exit from Warrington was not a shock, says Wolves head coach Tony Smith. "The timing of it wasn't great, but Chris is erratic like he is on the field," Smith said. "I wasn't overly shocked. The timing and the method of informing us was poor, but aside from that there were no grand shocks." And, asked if he had any regrets about signing the player, Smith told BBC Radio Merseyside: "No, he did some terrific stuff along the way and he contributed. "We knew what we were getting into and he didn't cause any major hassles off the field. He showed at times how outstanding he can be."[/url

Moving on in a sensible and proactive way as opposed to spitting the dummy, getting all litigious, malevolent and egotistically precious, despite knowing all the risks from Day 1...

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38015298Former Huddersfield, Leeds and Great Britain coach Smith said the club are already looking at potential replacements for next season. "We've had plenty of contact from a lot of keen and interested people and so we'll be in the market; we've got some money to play with," he added.[/url

I think he was an essential temporary signing last season in order to stave off the threat of relegation for 23 rounds in 2017.

I agree that beyond that temporary shift of his last season, it made no sense whatsoever to try and extend his stay at Leeds beyond 2016. He never wanted to return. Most fans sensed that, and I'd be surprised if club management didn't also share the same view.

Poor management all round IMO and lots of faux outrage on display after the inevitable announcement that Segeyaro wasn't returning to the club.

[url=http://www.insidesport.com.au/league/news/nrl-clubs-circling-sandow-443735At least three NRL clubs are eyeing Chris Sandow who has expressed a desire to return to the Australian top-flight in 2017. The 27-year-old is on the market after walking out on the final year of his contract with Super League club Warrington. St George Illawarra, Melbourne and Canterbury are all believed to be interested in the former Parramatta playmaker. Sandow confirmed his manager was investigating all options. “I am not worried about it,” Sandow told Sky Sports Radio. “I have got a good manager and he’s been working on that, I am leaving it up to him. “I am going to wait and see and let you guys wait on that I think.“Fingers crossed, that’s all I can say.”[/url

That's alright then.

Good to see Warrington moving on.