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| Quote: FGB "Myler should never be play in the halves again. Dreadful idea that we have numerous examples of. Leeming should be first up if we need cover. With Johnson Dwyer covering 9'"
Leeming is fine at half back but that means Dwyer starting at hooker which we know is just bad, really bad.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Leeming is fine at half back but that means Dwyer starting at hooker which we know is just bad, really bad.'"
We have Johnson at 9 as well.
He's got a few games under his belt at York and will have a full pre-season.
If Leeming has to go in the halves, Corey will be OK at 9.
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| Leeming did his best in the halves but he had a lot of poor games there too as well as some good ones. Please lets not think hes the answer if we lose a starting halfearly in the year.
If Gale wanted out or if Agar decided he wanted him gone or a combination of the 2 then fine let him go but the squad needs a 3rd half back if its to improve on last year in my opinion. Weve a decent pack, decent threequarter line we need the halves to get us around the park.
Weve gone from having best half back options in SL to not even having a proper back up and thats a concern in my opinion.
Myler, Sutcliffe and Leeming are all decent players but none are Leeds half backs in my opinion. Fine for 1 or 2 games but no more.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Leeming did his best in the halves but he had a lot of poor games there too as well as some good ones. Please lets not think hes the answer if we lose a starting halfearly in the year.
If Gale wanted out or if Agar decided he wanted him gone or a combination of the 2 then fine let him go but the squad needs a 3rd half back if its to improve on last year in my opinion. Weve a decent pack, decent threequarter line we need the halves to get us around the park.
Weve gone from having best half back options in SL to not even having a proper back up and thats a concern in my opinion.
Myler, Sutcliffe and Leeming are all decent players but none are Leeds half backs in my opinion. Fine for 1 or 2 games but no more.'"
And they may only be needed for a few games, in which case were covered
Not many if any SL teams have an ex international halfback as cover in that position
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| Quote: christopher "And they may only be needed for a few games, in which case were covered
Agree, but surely that was one of the key strengths of the squad. Now we are no better (depth wise) than anybody else. I do share Marty's concerns. We are at least another year from having a young half come through. Bottom line is Gale's departure has made us weaker, not stronger, and we can't pretend otherwise.
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| Quote: christopher "And they may only be needed for a few games, in which case were covered
Hopefully they arent needed at all but if Sezer goes down in week 1 what the option? We have no back up.
Myler is best 1 at the club and needs to stay there, hes no half back. Austin has played on the wing internationally it doesnt make him a winger.
We need a 3rd half back in the squad.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "Agree, but surely that was one of the key strengths of the squad. Now we are no better (depth wise) than anybody else. I do share Marty's concerns. We are at least another year from having a young half come through. Bottom line is Gale's departure has made us weaker, not stronger, and we can't pretend otherwise.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "We dont need a top line half back as cover but we need someone to cover. Last year we supposedly had McLelland as cover but injuries destroyed our half backs all season. Our current position now means we have no cover at all and if in the early weeks one of our starting halves go down then we are in trouble.
Sorry folks but Myler in the halves doesnt work like Sutcliffe doesnt. If they are our options then we wont function well enough.
Our current junior options are Kai Morgan who is very poor and Jack Sinfield who is very young at just turned 17 and for me is potentially a better 9 than half back. There is no 20 yr old half like McLelland to cover.
We need a 3rd half back desperately and needs to be a priority.'"
There isn't a SL club that has three high quality halves - how are you going to get a half of the quality you want who isn't going to be guaranteed a starting place?
I cannot understand the obsession on here with props - it has always been the case since the days it was on rivals. If Leeds had 8 props there would be some on here asking for more.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Hopefully they arent needed at all but if Sezer goes down in week 1 what the option? We have no back up.
Myler is best 1 at the club and needs to stay there, hes no half back. Austin has played on the wing internationally it doesnt make him a winger.
We need a 3rd half back in the squad.'"
We do have back up, Fuzzy and Walker can play Full Back Myler can fo into the halves.
You may not like thr option but to say we don’t have backup is wrong, we have s an ex international who has played 90% of his career at 7 as backup.
Im not saying Gale leaving doesn’t make the squad poorer what i am saying is it isn’t some kind of big disaster that will totally derail the season that you are making it out to be.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "Agree, but surely that was one of the key strengths of the squad. Now we are no better (depth wise) than anybody else. I do share Marty's concerns. We are at least another year from having a young half come through. Bottom line is Gale's departure has made us weaker, not stronger, and we can't pretend otherwise.'"
It has made us weaker, on paper, we don’t have a clue whats gone on!
If there was dissent within the ranks it could make us stronger as a team.
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| Thats your opinion Chris. I believe it will.
We was building a strong squad with depth and options. Now we are weaker unless we add to it.
Weve seen Myler isnt good in the halves many a time. Hes poor there but we may need to rely on him there. International half back my eye
Sutcliffe is no half back, we dont want him there either but didnt he get selected for England Knights? Another international half back no doubt
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Thats your opinion Chris. I believe it will.
We was building a strong squad with depth and options. Now we are weaker unless we add to it.
Weve seen Myler isnt good in the halves many a time. Hes poor there but we may need to rely on him there. International half back my eye'"
He was an international halfback wether you agree or not.
To say we have no backup is not opinion its flat out incorrect.
Wether you think that backup is good enough is your opinion, and of course you’re entitled to it, we’ll just have to wait and see who’s opinion turns out to be correct
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| Hopefully we wont find out cos i would like Myler at 1, Leeming at 9 and Sezer and Austin to play every week now.
We need to add another half to replace McLelland in the squad tho. Sezer and Austin are replacing Lui and Gale.
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| Quote: christopher "He was an international halfback wether you agree or not.
To say we have no backup is not opinion its flat out incorrect.
Wether you think that backup is good enough is your opinion, and of course you’re entitled to it, we’ll just have to wait and see who’s opinion turns out to be correct
On the bright side, let's hope both Austin and Sezer steer clear of long term injury and young Johnson can force his way into the seventeen. Hopefully the new conditioning guru can get the key troops out on the park with far greater frequency than last year.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "On the bright side, let's hope both Austin and Sezer steer clear of long term injury and young Johnson can force his way into the seventeen. Hopefully the new conditioning guru can get the key troops out on the park with far greater frequency than last year.'"
This is key. I've gone from being very, very optimistic about next year back to just hopeful. We had such depth with Gale there, in addition to the rest of the squad, that we could have ridden out even an injury crisis like we had this year. Now it's not looking anything like as rosy and we're back to being reliant on key people staying fit - something the squad was designed to avoid happening.
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