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| Quote ploinerrhino="ploinerrhino"I said at the start of the season we were looking at 10th position and last week i replaced that prediction with 11th with an option of relegation if we lost to London and some bright spark came on and said we could finish in front of Wakey and Wigan
 . .Make no mistake we are now looking down the Barrel . These are desperate times ! Nothing has been learned from the last few years of Macs reign , we are still signing absolute dross and retaining over the hill forwards as we have for the last 4 years . Myler , La La , Donaldson ,Luke Briscoe ,prop from wire who is so good i can never remember his name in the first camp , Ablett , J.J.B , Cuthbertson , Ferris in the second camp . Then we have the not good enough Suttcliffe and Handley and whilst Merrin and Hurrel are two of our best players they are not worth Marquee money .
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Goulding never going to be good enough , ridiculous contract on the back of showing enthusiasim
Walker yep more than happy with him
Tom Briscoe ok
Watkins yep once he gets fit and confidence back will do for me
Singleton Just seems to have gone backwards
Parcell Club seems to want get rid of him
Ward Love him to bits but never plays
Polish Kid Will be a fantastic player as he gets older
Dwyer ok for me as an interchange , but coaching staff do not seem to want him
And a load of promising kids who will probably not improve playing with that lot above
If i have missed anyone that probably tells you all you need to know about them .
So our team
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I Think that shows where we are'"
This is a good post and sums up where i feel we are and the question marks are no exaggeration. I'm sure Furner must feel something along those lines and must be banging on KS and GH office doors on monday if he hasn't already to state his case. Too many lumps of dead wood in this squad still. |
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It will be a completely different rebuilding job if you get relegated. That's the downfall of P & R.
I don't think the current championship schedule even gives the promoted club the opportunity to compete fairly for free agency players.
The Championship GF should be 1 month before the SL GF and there should be an enforced anti tampering deadline that begins the day after the Championship GF.
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| Quote Bulls4Champs="Bulls4Champs"It will be a completely different rebuilding job if you get relegated. That's the downfall of P & R.
I don't think the current championship schedule even gives the promoted club the opportunity to compete fairly for free agency players.
The Championship GF should be 1 month before the SL GF and there should be an enforced anti tampering deadline that begins the day after the Championship GF.'"
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What was in the minds of GF and co when the old guard were coming to the end of their careers I wonder ?were they so sure the the replacements and the younger players coming would be capable of holding the fort competitively while the transition period went on.Or did they actually think they were capable of winning trophies ?
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Who are the backroom employees who have left?'"
I couldn’t tell you mate. That’s literally all he said after I asked him how things were going. He may have meant left or in the process of walking away, but I didn’t ask for any specifics. |
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| Quote Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"You are an NFL fan aren't you?'"
No mate. I don't like American Football. |
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| Quote Backwoodsman="Backwoodsman"If things carry on like this furner might decide pack it in. Can’t see he is getting much joy out of the game at the moment. Last night we were poor but whilst not making excuses we didn’t have much luck. A major blow is Watkins’s struggle. Having him back fit would be a big plus. One thing the majority of poster on here agree on ,is several players are not good enough at this level. Without doubt furner is aware of this so his job is to phase these players out of the club and hopefully bring in some quality.'"
No, Furners “job” is to get these players up to speed and if not at least up to a level where they can do a job. Tony Smith took Leeds back to the basics before adding in greater responsibilities as the team grew. |
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"No, Furners “job” is to get these players up to speed and if not at least up to a level where they can do a job. Tony Smith took Leeds back to the basics before adding in greater responsibilities as the team grew.'"
Tony Smith never had to go back, he was handed a team ready to be winners and a desire to be winners, from the brilliant development Powell had done, and he took it on from that. That’s the big difference with us now. |
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In 2002 we managed to get rid of the likes of Ryan Sheridan, Andy Hay and Karl Pratt even though all were contracted - Daryl Powell no less made the call (he seems to have repaired his relationship with Sheridan since!).
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 339845.stm
Why can't we do this now? One potentially big difficulty is bringing in superior replacements mid-season - but if it's a question of making a bit more cap space available, now is surely the time to be ruthless with one or two? |
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In 2002 we managed to get rid of the likes of Ryan Sheridan, Andy Hay and Karl Pratt even though all were contracted - Daryl Powell no less made the call (he seems to have repaired his relationship with Sheridan since!).
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 339845.stm
Why can't we do this now? One potentially big difficulty is bringing in superior replacements mid-season - but if it's a question of making a bit more cap space available, now is surely the time to be ruthless with one or two? | |
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Quote Exeter Rhino="Exeter Rhino"In 2002 we managed to get rid of the likes of Ryan Sheridan, Andy Hay and Karl Pratt even though all were contracted - Daryl Powell no less made the call (he seems to have repaired his relationship with Sheridan since!).
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 339845.stm
Why can't we do this now? One potentially big difficulty is bringing in superior replacements mid-season - but if it's a question of making a bit more cap space available, now is surely the time to be ruthless with one or two?'"
You just don't get coaches being so frank about specific individuals like that now, it clearly worked then though. Those comments about Karl Pratt pull no punches, has any coach since been so explicit about an individual? They normally perform their best impression of a politician in those circumstances. |
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Quote Exeter Rhino="Exeter Rhino"In 2002 we managed to get rid of the likes of Ryan Sheridan, Andy Hay and Karl Pratt even though all were contracted - Daryl Powell no less made the call (he seems to have repaired his relationship with Sheridan since!).
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 339845.stm
Why can't we do this now? One potentially big difficulty is bringing in superior replacements mid-season - but if it's a question of making a bit more cap space available, now is surely the time to be ruthless with one or two?'"
You just don't get coaches being so frank about specific individuals like that now, it clearly worked then though. Those comments about Karl Pratt pull no punches, has any coach since been so explicit about an individual? They normally perform their best impression of a politician in those circumstances. | |
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| Quote tony1983="tony1983"I couldn’t tell you mate. That’s literally all he said after I asked him how things were going. He may have meant left or in the process of walking away, but I didn’t ask for any specifics.'"
I heard the team doctor left. The same source mentioned unrest in the dressing room. I got this second hand but it echoes comments of previous poster. |
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What right have any of the squad to spit the dummy? Most if them have shown little fight and low quality for over a year. Those guys need to shape up or stop pretending to be full time professionals.
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