Miller, Lisone and Momo are simply not the required quality of overseas player that any team with top 4 aspirations should ever be signing

He’s been gradually improving in recent games but that was his best game for Leeds. Some way off Lewis though, unfortunately.

I've just watched Arthur's press conference. He's already mentioned how scrappy the ruck is.

Our poor overseas quota players are a huge part of the problem. Momirovski I have some sympathy with the club for signing - he was a risk with injuries but had pedigree and was a last minute replacement for Macdonald. It just hasn't worked out as he looks done to me. Miller's the disappointing one. He didn't have the sort of issues in the NRL he's showing for Leeds - he wouldn't have played even the games he did if that was the case.

Regardless, our overseas players as a group aren't even in the solid not spectacular bracket, and most are no better than average English players. Even Croft gets away with a lot of invisible man performances. Only Martin looks decent every week. But if we can't shift a few before their contracts are up it will be at least a season before we can make many changes.

Anyway, BA now knows what he's up against. He doesn't have time for senior players to get with the programme so it will be interesting to see what changes he starts to make.

He really wasn’t our best performing forward at all.

Eseh has been gash.

Miller must be close to getting dropped, he is working directly against what BA is trying to drill in to the side.

Lewis was very good today; but he ran through Mom for one try, and was given too much space for most of his kicks.

We were still ending too many sets in our own 40-50m zone.

And it is, it's dreadful to watch, isnt it. But he also said that's just how it is played over here and he'll have to work with it.

I think last night showed some promise. We actually executed the game plan in the first 20, and looked by far the better team in that period. As others have mentioned, Frawley looked good, but then you think what half back would have looked good when we were constantly starting almost all our sets on our try line under Smith.

What’s clear is that the players aren’t conditioned to play a high intensity game, as we looked really fatigued even at the end of the first half.

Miller was awful, needs to be told never to pass it, and only focus on carries out of yardage. Mom also needs to get his head in the game. For me, Newman looks pretty poor too, and it’s a real shame McCormack has injured himself last week, as he’d fancy his chances with those two playing.

The good: the game plan was really obvious and when we stuck to it we looked the better team. Martin again proved why he is worth another contract. Frawley was much improved

The Bad: couldn’t stick with the plan long enough. Aside from Mik and Martin, the pack were poor. Miller was terrible. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him dropped to prove a point.

Miller could be a much better player, but his head isn’t screwed on right for RL still. He has a very high skill level but he breaks down way too often. I think BA will try to sort him out.

Cam throwing his usual hospital passes again and generally slowing things down; he is awkward to defend at times. Not a good season by his standards.

Newman and Fus both look busted. Harry is a big concern, he is way off this year.

BA will have to decide whether to stick with our first choice squad or swap a couple around.

In the situation we are in and obviously BAs plan is to get into the playoffs, switching the players out and the team around a lot probably isn’t the way to go. It’s new, systems and game plans, the players will need time to adapt and I think sticking with a settled team will make that easier. Whether that’s the correct way for the future I’m unsure.

Miller will come good IMO

Thought Momirosvki looked better going forward but that miss on Lewis was absolutely criminal - his only missed tackle of the game aswell, so like the whole of that second half performance, very very frustrating

Thought Frawley showed some improvement, Croft once again failed to dictate the game, plenty of effort but no evidence of any sublime skill. He cost Leeds a huge amount of money to bring him into the club. He is also one of the highest paid players in the league. Sadly yesterday’s performance just confirms my opinion we are currently a mid table side. Unfortunately it may take some time to jettison the dead wood. Most of yesterdays game we persisted in taking the wrong options and decisions. One glaring example Newman received the ball with plenty of space on the outside ,turned inside and was hammered. Smith as per normal stopped several promising movements with his reluctance to pass the ball. Lots of effort and commitment 0n view, but precious little skill content. Highly unlikely we will make the top six, another wasted season. On the plus side st Gemma’s will be receiving my £50

Tick this box to confirm you watch rugby like a robot Esse Jr had more energy and enthusiasm than all the other props put together where do you find the stats for that? It seems that you are upset by the fact we are having to take Wigans good faith and turns out the loane is better than any of our 1st choice props, he's also a Leeds lad!

Miller will come good???
I predict he'll be back playing sevens next season