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| In answer to the original question, Cade Cust would go down as a marker for our ambition.
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| Quote: Seth "In answer to the original question, Cade Cust would go down as a marker for our ambition.'"
If the answer is Cade Cust, I’m not sure I fully understand the question…
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| Quote: batleyrhino "If the answer is Cade Cust, I’m not sure I fully understand the question…'"
Hes the type of player Smith likes "can cover a number of positions " like Olpherts even if he's not very good at any of them.
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| full circle back to 1990. sign average players on decent money and wonder why we don't win anything.
but hey, we made a final last year so everything's good
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| Quote: RAPIDO "Hes the type of player Smith likes "can cover a number of positions " like Olpherts even if he's not very good at any of them.'"
He's a better player than Olpherts and in a position we are short in.
So realistically who would we like to sign? Id love us to go all out for Croft but I actually think he'll be in the NRL within a year, we can throw as much money as we want at Salford but if the player doesn't want to come because they want to go to the NRL there isn't much you can do.
So who else?
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| Quote: christopher "They're all assumptions though that are made to come to a conclusion.
The club has said they have looked after Tetevano and he himself has thanked them for their support, and funnily enough where did the rumour come from - Blake Austin.
What's the Ward rumour Ive not heard anything about insurance with Ward?
McGuire was offered a one year extension with a view to moving 'upstairs' afterwards, but wanted two and Hull KR offered him silly money so he went.
I'm sure Craig Harrison and GH do clash they both want what's best for their own interests, however I have heard say that there isn't a club in the country that look after the younger payers better than Leeds.'"
Your comment about young players is also a rumour not a provable fact. I understand he club require the younger players to insure themselves against injury - given how little these players earn if that is the case its an insult and no wonder all that the best players in that sparkling team at Siddle all went elsewhere.
What is a fact is that despite all the success that team brought the club and financial rewards with it the club consistently paid its best players less than they could earn at other clubs.
Danny McGuire was offered a one year extension and was told he wouldn't be playing in the first team and he would used to butter up corporate clients on matchdays - that is why he left - fact.
Stevie Ward and his charity is helping a close family friend who had a promising RU career halted through concussion. Anyone who speaks to him he will tell you how he was treated by GH. That doesn't show the club in great light. On Tetevano surely he would have been treated as anyone else would have been on NHS - Leeds would have organised an ambulance from Kirkstall to LGI!!
The club do great stuff off the field but regarding the playing side as the saying goes "something is seriously wrong in the state of Denmark"
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| Quote: tad rhino "full circle back to 1990. sign average players on decent money and wonder why we don't win anything.
but hey, we made a final last year so everything's good'"
Spot on, in those days along with my family I used to attend most games home and away. Then came along the golden generation, for me after watching some of the dross it was manna from heaven. Highly unlikely due to salary cap and the strength of the Australian game we could ever replicate that team. However at the moment we seem a long way from assembling any sort of squad to challenge for honours. Looking at saints after the Cunningham debacle they have done remarkably well to rebuild. Also Catalan always seem to pick up decent players and this season look like winning something. In recent years all we have at witnessed at the club is a succession of sub standard coaches and overhyped and useless players.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "If the answer is Cade Cust, I’m not sure I fully understand the question…'"
If the answer is Cust , then my next answer is "No I will not be buying a season ticket"
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| Quote: tad rhino "full circle back to 1990. sign average players on decent money and wonder why we don't win anything.
but hey, we made a final last year so everything's good'"
Hanley, Goulding and O'Neill were hardly average players!
Although Goulding's alleged antics at Headingley were worse than Austin's ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "Hanley, Goulding and O'Neill were hardly average players!
Although Goulding's alleged antics at Headingley were worse than Austin's
On the other side of the coin I give you John Gallagher and Richie Ayres.
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "Hanley, Goulding and O'Neill were hardly average players!
Although Goulding's alleged antics at Headingley were worse than Austin's
Just out the time frame let’s not forget the immortal Sam Backo. However we have signed some brilliant players so it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s in recent times we have fallen by the wayside.
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| I have to say the game against Leigh yesterday was the most gutless match I have watched at Headingley for a number of years. The Leeds players seem totally disinterested, Leigh players must have been keeping an eye on not getting sent off or injured and missing out on CC final but Leeds never tried to increase intensity
Smith delivers an after match review that quite frankly I think must have been written a few weeks ago as it had no reflection on the appalling spectacle the fans were delivered. I truly believe Smith has no idea how to coach or motivate a team and it’s about time he joined Powell and Last in the tried but failed club.
Final point. Marcus Griffiths. Can we be supplied a copy of the rules he works to because they are very different to the standard ones.
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| Quote: Bobtownrhino "I have to say the game against Leigh yesterday was the most gutless match I have watched at Headingley for a number of years. The Leeds players seem totally disinterested, Leigh players must have been keeping an eye on not getting sent off or injured and missing out on CC final but Leeds never tried to increase intensity
Smith delivers an after match review that quite frankly I think must have been written a few weeks ago as it had no reflection on the appalling spectacle the fans were delivered. I truly believe Smith has no idea how to coach or motivate a team and it’s about time he joined Powell and Last in the tried but failed club.
Final point. Marcus Griffiths. Can we be supplied a copy of the rules he works to because they are very different to the standard ones.'"
Disappointing as it was, there was no lack of effort (IMO) watching on Sky. Leeds desperately lacked players in key positions to cut through, and Leigh defended very well on the whole. I don't see how it was Smith's fault on this occasion.
Smith alluded to several players being ill // carrying knocks as well. We are probably closer to the bare bones than a lot of fans think.
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| Quote: Backwoodsman "Just out the time frame let’s not forget the immortal Sam Backo. However we have signed some brilliant players so it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s in recent times we have fallen by the wayside.'"
Slammin Sam was rated as the best prop in the world when we signed him, yes he didn’t really perform for us but he was a very high quality signing.
People keep saying we are signing on the cheap, but we are paying full cap, and since 2015 we gave signed big money Nrl international players, pike Galloway Merrin, both Kangaroos
Lolahea, Hurrell, Tetavano, these are all big guilty players in paper who all for various reasons were poor signings or at best inconsistent. Segayaro
That before we get to Austan Sezar Fusitua in current squad.
We have splashed the Cash on highly rated players, but they gave been let downs
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Slammin Sam was rated as the best prop in the world when we signed him, yes he didn’t really perform for us but he was a very high quality signing.
People keep saying we are signing on the cheap, but we are paying full cap, and since 2015 we gave signed big money Nrl international players, pike Galloway Merrin, both Kangaroos
Lolahea, Hurrell, Tetavano, these are all big guilty players in paper who all for various reasons were poor signings or at best inconsistent. Segayaro
That before we get to Austan Sezar Fusitua in current squad.
We have splashed the Cash on highly rated players, but they gave been let downs'"
Therein lies the problem - the inability to recruit players who will enhance the squad especially from the NRL. It seems to me we are unable to get the better players and we have to overpay to get anybody to come to Leeds
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