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Quote: batleyrhino "Don't forget Myler who the club signed as a halfback.'"
yes forgot Myler. It is too easy to pass blame on the the coaching staff. I think the club had every base covered other than being a prop short.

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Quote: fanstanningley "yes forgot Myler. It is too easy to pass blame on the the coaching staff. I think the club had every base covered other than being a prop short.'"

Fair points about half backs these and I agree was harsh on club.
Just frustrated like everyone else. No club could cope with the injuries we have....

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Season from hell so far.

Injuries have ruined start to the season. It can happen to any club. Its happened to us. Just got to keep working thru it.

Fans will accept effort and hard work. Other than KRnt we have had that. Discipline and handling have to be better.

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Quote: Shabino "The problem is that Gale is the only player with any vision for last tackle plays. We basically based our whole offense on a guy who's over 30, with a very dodgy injury record in last few years..
Think coaches need to be looked at....'"
isn't teflon in charge of signings these days

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Myler- signed to do a job he was never qualified for, found a more fitting home at FB (credit to him)
Lui- brought in as a steady stop gap to prevent relegation (club tried to get him off the books this year)
Gale- a risk but turned out relatively well hope he can stay fit now
Mclelland- clearly not worked out like was hoped and I can’t see massive improvement in his influence unfortunately
Eastmond- huge risk and a real desperate grab which is still unknown which way it’ll go. One things for sure he needs to start getting involved. Loads of players went a long time without playing but have managed to show more intent.

In truth not one of them (including Gale) excites or fills me with great optimism.

How has such a big club failed to produce a half of any note since McGuire and Burrow?!

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Quote: Seth "Myler- signed to do a job he was never qualified for, found a more fitting home at FB (credit to him)
Lui- brought in as a steady stop gap to prevent relegation (club tried to get him off the books this year)
Gale- a risk but turned out relatively well hope he can stay fit now
Mclelland- clearly not worked out like was hoped and I can’t see massive improvement in his influence unfortunately
Eastmond- huge risk and a real desperate grab which is still unknown which way it’ll go. One things for sure he needs to start getting involved. Loads of players went a long time without playing but have managed to show more intent.

In truth not one of them (including Gale) excites or fills me with great optimism.

How has such a big club failed to produce a half of any note since McGuire and Burrow?!'"



Unfortunately no club is producing them.
Most are having to look overseas for half backs.
We probably have the best natural English 7 there is.
But there’s not much coming through by the looks.
Having said that mcLelland hasn’t really been given a chance.
If we let him go I could see him going elsewhere and being successful...

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That’s not completely true. In the time frame I mention, Harry smith is developing well, Sam Powell has transitioned well to hooker (another position Leeds can’t produce in)George Williams. sts still getting very good service from lomax and have an academy lad making the bench, and Richardson doing well at cas, whilst they’ve also produced Truman, Hull are well served by sneyd. So hardly that nobody is producing them.

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Quote: Simmo71 "Unfortunately no club is producing them.
Most are having to look overseas for half backs.
We probably have the best natural English 7 there is.
But there’s not much coming through by the looks.
Having said that mcLelland hasn’t really been given a chance.
If we let him go I could see him going elsewhere and being successful...'"


Sadly you are right. Lomax made his debut in 2009. since then George Williams and you could argue Trueman, I may have missed someone but think that is it in 12 years. Posts crossed, Sneyd has been good for FC

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Sadly you are right. Lomax made his debut in 2009. since then George Williams and you could argue Trueman, I may have missed someone but think that is it in 12 years. Posts crossed, Sneyd has been good for FC'"

You could add Tomkins. Would probably have been better for England if he had stayed in the halves, with Hardaker at FB.

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Quote: Seth "That’s not completely true. In the time frame I mention, Harry smith is developing well, Sam Powell has transitioned well to hooker (another position Leeds can’t produce in)sts still getting very good service from lomax and have an academy lad making the bench, and Richardson doing well at cas, whilst they’ve also produced Truman, Hull are well served by sneyd. So hardly that nobody is producing them.'"



Not sure any of those names will worry the Aussies!
They have a conveyor belt of quality half backs.

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Still, Leeds haven’t even produced anyone matching their standard and in Williams a player whose going very well in the NRL.

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Quote: Seth "Still, Leeds haven’t even produced anyone matching their standard and in Williams a player whose going very well in the NRL.'"



True.
We’d take any of Trueman, Lomax or Sneyd right now!!
Williams is way out of our league.

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Quote: Seth "Still, Leeds haven’t even produced anyone matching their standard and in Williams a player whose going very well in the NRL.'"


Absolutely, only McShane came through but ended up at hooker. I thought Liam Hood would make it at hooker but again moved on.

Only young Sinfield on the horizon at present as a potential half.

Personally, I think we totally lost the plot when Barrie McD was put in charge of the youth set up.

One more half for England - Hastings

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Absolutely, only McShane came through but ended up at hooker. I thought Liam Hood would make it at hooker but again moved on.

Only young Sinfield on the horizon at present as a potential half.

Personally, I think we totally lost the plot when Barrie McD was put in charge of the youth set up.

One more half for England - Hastings'"



Yeh exactly!
Hastings and Austin in the halves for England speaks volumes for the quality we’re producing over here.
Be great to see Sinfield come through.

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Harry Smith at Wigan is a super player. A kid ive been impressed with for a while in academy buf standard of young halves and hookers is very poor and not just a Leeds issue.

We had the best young 9 in the country but thats gone now thru no fault of the club.

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