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Quote: ploinerrhino "Take out Handley and where is the pace ?'"
Newman to come in he's no slouch Hurrell probably the most explosive player in Super league that more than makes up for his lack of pace.Martin and Mellor are quick for second rowers.

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Quote: fanstanningley "Newman to come in he's no slouch Hurrell probably the most explosive player in Super league that more than makes up for his lack of pace.Martin and Mellor are quick for second rowers.'"


Newman frequently got caught by other teams when he was in the clear last year. He's not as fast as Handley. Handley has good top speed but he's a straight-line runner - we need someone with a bit of elusiveness and a step as well IMO.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "Newman frequently got caught by other teams when he was in the clear last year. He's not as fast as Handley. Handley has good top speed but he's a straight-line runner - we need someone with a bit of elusiveness and a step as well IMO.'"

Sam Tomkins?

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Tindall is the closest we have to pace + evasion.

We are becoming quite a physical side again but yes, could do with a couple of players able to finish from distance. If we can really play as a team though I think we’ll do well from this year onwards. We have some good players.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Take out Handley and where is the pace ?'"


Take out the front line winger from any side and they will lack a bit of pace. Agree we could do with upgrading briscoe for another wing with genuine gas. Depending on eastmond at the end of the year we could also do with upgrading our 6 for somebody with pace who takes on the line. If he stays fit then eastmond is that kind of player.

If you took grace out from Saints then they have Tommy M on the other wing and maybe Lomax with some wheels but apart from that 1,3,4 and 7 aren’t blessed with pace.

You need some pace in your team but it isn’t the be all and end all. If we upgrade briscoe and lui next year that’s fine with me

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Doubt we will get another half next year with eastmond on 2 year deal. Think we may see tindal a few times this year as well. Future's bright.

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That wonder try effort from Tindall last year shows you quite a lot about him. Evasive, has a great step and pace to burn.

Really excited to see him develop. I hope they give him Briscoes wing spot eventually.

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Rather than sign a winger I mean.

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Quote: Lprhino "Take out the front line winger from any side and they will lack a bit of pace. Agree we could do with upgrading briscoe for another wing with genuine gas. Depending on eastmond at the end of the year we could also do with upgrading our 6 for somebody with pace who takes on the line. If he stays fit then eastmond is that kind of player.

If you took grace out from Saints then they have Tommy M on the other wing and maybe Lomax with some wheels but apart from that 1,3,4 and 7 aren’t blessed with pace.

You need some pace in your team but it isn’t the be all and end all. If we upgrade briscoe and lui next year that’s fine with me'"

Very true. Well said

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One of the declining elements of RL has been the overall pace of back lines. Ours is adequate in that regard.

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Quote: Lprhino "If you took grace out from Saints then they have Tommy M on the other wing and maybe Lomax with some wheels but apart from that 1,3,4 and 7 aren’t blessed with pace. '"


You forgot Regan Grace, who is pretty quick. And Naiqama seems more dynamic than Hurrell. Percival is no slouch either. That's a much faster backline than ours. They've moved on from the days of statue Wellens at FB.

My beef with the lack of pace in the team is that in many games last season we were conceded a long-range try and none of the team were in sight to stop the break. Likewise on attack, it is easier for teams to telegraph deep passing moves when we only have one fast player who has the capability to go the length.

Remember when we had a backline of Hardaker, Watkins, Hall, Briscoe/BJB and Moon? Not to mention Burrow, who had explosive pace over short range. The current squad has nothing like the running strike of those days, although I don't want to be too negative - we seem to be going in the right direction with recruitment (slowly!).

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "You forgot Regan Grace,'"


He literally mentioned him in the first line?

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "You forgot Regan Grace, who is pretty quick. And Naiqama seems more dynamic than Hurrell. Percival is no slouch either. That's a much faster backline than ours. They've moved on from the days of statue Wellens at FB.

My beef with the lack of pace in the team is that in many games last season we were conceded a long-range try and none of the team were in sight to stop the break. Likewise on attack, it is easier for teams to telegraph deep passing moves when we only have one fast player who has the capability to go the length.

Remember when we had a backline of Hardaker, Watkins, Hall, Briscoe/BJB and Moon? Not to mention Burrow, who had explosive pace over short range. The current squad has nothing like the running strike of those days, although I don't want to be too negative - we seem to be going in the right direction with recruitment (slowly!).'"


I mentioned Grace in the first line, the point was if you took him out that was what was left.

Maybe hurrell isn’t as quick as naiqama but Newman is maybe quicker than Percival, Walker maybe quicker than coote. The issue is the second winger and some pace in the halves. Eastmond could fix one of those issues but longer term you trade up briscoe for a winger with more pace.

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Pace is great, but the game had changed. Raw paced players tend to be more slender, and wingers are expected to be strong as an ox now ( we can probably thank our own Ryan Hall for that).
Players like Kevin Penny tend to be forced out of the game. Which imho is a great shame....

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Given the choice I’d take a player who can break the line like Newman

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