We've no chance of making the 5 were too far behind at this stage, i’ll be happy just to he safe.

What is annoying is those close games 3 spring to mind, London, Wigan and Hull FC, win them and were in the mix for 2nd spot never mind 5th!

I believe the squad were underachieving early this season and we could be easily in top 5. Clarke said we looked like a top 5 side now.

What the hell are you talking about? Were not making 5th.

I agree ,but remember 2011 and 2012 we finished 5th and then what happened?

A man who goes to the extremes.

Its surely not even mathematically possible as the teams above us have to play each other and therefore have to pick up points along the way.

Lose Thursday and he will be flapping were going to relegated ffs.

Its dreams and what fans are made of

I think it is mathematically possible as I dont think catalan or Castleford play each other, so if they both lose all their remaining games, same for Salford and we win all ours we make 5th - it’s utter fantasy land though and isn’t going to happen

Even if by some miracle it did, there's zero evidence we have a team good enough to negotiate play offs and a grand final.
Yes, we did it a couple of times before but with a nucleus that had already won multiple grand finals. We're currently watching a side that seems to have just enough about it to avoid relegation with a game or two to spare.

That said, I do hold a modicum of optimism for next year.

I agree, part of me actually wants Saints to play a full strong side on Thursday as it will be a good test of where we actually are.

We will finish 8th, get the idea of finishing 5th out of your head, we have had a terrible season and deserve nowt, the rugby that has been served up this year has been rubbish. This year I will be glad when I get to the last game on my season ticket

Yep.

And i wonder how many with those same feelings will be renewing next year? Decisions made in the next few weeks- months will likely determine that. 2 seasons of mostly dross product on the field now; 3 out of the last 4.

I think alot will depend on how we finish, if we finish strongly the fans might have a bit of optimism that we’ve turned a corner

The fool and his money are easily parted. Let’s not forget that Yorkshire people have deep pockets, trust me they will need to convince me that buying season tickets for next year represents money well spent. I bet they won’t increase any prices.

I've had a season ticket for over 30 years and have seen some right dross served up and very little worse than this year. I'll have no hesitation in renewing my season ticket for next year as I'm a Leeds fan and always will be