Moon is out, Lilley comes in and starts. Walker v Golding for 18th man.

Walker/Golding
Briscoe Watkins Sutcliffe Hall
Lilley McGuire
Singleton Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Ward
JJB

Keinhorst Mullally Garbutt Delaney

we have nobody to control a game.thats where we miss sinfield.his game management.2 seasons later it's still not been addressed

We have nobody to coach or lead the team either without Sinfield.

Nail and head

has there ever been anybody able to control a game like sinfield, you cant replace the irreplaceable, but you can do it a different way, and i think we are not far off that with parcel cuhbo ward etc. if lilley can come on (or given a chance extended run) with a running half like myler. think we will not be too far off.
still think we will end up with nothing, but think we can be the team to beat next year.

Not automatically assuming and we may not win if we get to the GF. But the point being debated was that we need to beat Cas tomorrow to have the confidence to have any chance to beat them at Old Trafford (if that's the GF). I disagree, when you have the record Leeds have at that venue in the last 10 years their confidence that they can win there won't hinge on tomorrow nights result.

If it is a Leeds vs Cas GF. The fact our club, players, coaches, management, fans etc. know a GF night/week like the back of their hand compared to Cas who have never been to one shouldn't be underplayed. Especially considering Cas will have all the expectation and hype on them in their first GF and Leeds will have none.

But again it's not like they've had numerous attempts to say that they can't win without him in a big time match.

I still think that Burrow and McGuire have enough big game experience to run the game between them, thats why I would go with them 2 to start in the halves in the playoffs, with Moon back to centre and Sutcliffe as an attacking weapon off the bench.

Moon has been great in the halves but I think it puts too much pressure on McGuire as he has to both organise the team and be the creative.

Maybe a bit harsh on Sutty but I genuinely think if we brought him on with 30 to go he could well make the break that wins us the game against a tired defence.

You have just contradicted yourself - your saying Leeds have all the experience but will have none of the expectation? Surely like you are doing many will take that experience into consideration their expectations for the game?

Neither has ever run a big game and a lot of Burrow's GF experience is an impact player off the bench. Moon is not a half and hasn't shown any of the basic skills required of a half. He may actually have had more impact playing at FB.

No because as we are seeing here people are saying that was when Sinfield was around. I'm taking the experience into consideration but I'm not sure many others will and will be too caught up in the hype surrounding Castleford and their record against us.

That kinda positive talk may get you shot round here.. ...or at least you'll be branded a heretic.

McGuire mainly ran the 2015 GF, whilst Burrow mainly ran the 2007 GF (imo of corse), I think you are underestimating the effect that they had in controlling our trophy winning finals. The only finals I recall being totally dominated by Sinfield are the 2004 and 2012 GFs.

I actually said earlier in the season that I would move Moon to fullback, but it might be a bit late to test that out now