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Quote: tad rhino "much as I loved him on the pitch he is a total tool who can't stay out of trouble off it. won't be long before he messes up again'"

Who will mess up first?
Zak Hardaker or Rangi Chase?

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What angers me at times, is you see players who were cast off by Leeds performing really well for other Super League Teams.

Maybe we do need a new Coach icon_lol.gif

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Quote: William Eve "Who will mess up first?
Zak Hardaker or Rangi Chase?'"



very good question. hardaker

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Quote: tad rhino "very good question. hardaker'"

If Daryl Powell can rein them both in and get them focused on playing, he'll qualify as a magician and Cas will probably qualify for the Top 4.

I heard a rumour (and that's all it is) regarding Chase which may have some truth in it or it might be complete bollox. He's allegedly been turning up to training drunk and is on a final warning.

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Quote: William Eve "If Daryl Powell can rein them both in and get them focused on playing, he'll qualify as a magician and Cas will probably qualify for the Top 4.

I heard a rumour (and that's all it is) regarding Chase which may have some truth in it or it might be complete bollox. He's allegedly been turning up to training drunk and is on a final warning.'"


That won't wash for long. Bloke needs help if that's true...

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Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Guys,

Do you think if Hardaker has a very good season for Castleford, we could be seeing him back in a Leeds Shirt in 2018?'"

No time to move on.

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Quote: tad rhino "much as I loved him on the pitch he is a total tool who can't stay out of trouble off it. won't be long before he messes up again'"


Who cares what he does off the pitch? The reason we got rid was because it started affecting his performances, if he was still in great form we would have kept him.

Similarly, if he performs for Cas it won't matter what he does in his spare time (unless of course he ends up doing time icon_wink.gif )

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Who cares what he does off the pitch? The reason we got rid was because it started affecting his performances, if he was still in great form we would have kept him.'"
Not when management and coaching staff have to constantly get involved in sorting him out, fixing difficult situations etc - it distracts from their jobs and unsettles other players. At some stage you have to take a final stand - Leeds stretched all sorts of internal disciplinary rules to keep him after his earlier transgressions but by the end he just had to go.

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If we wanted Hardaker back would we be able to retain him or would he be a free agent?
I can't see the current management set up wanting him back though, regardless of how he plays for Cas.
It galled me to see him & McShane playing so well for Cas, not fussed about Hood though.

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If it's true that he was taking tramodol I am surprised he was able to function at all. Usually due to the strength of this drug you are usually advised not to drive.
It's a serious and potentially addictive drug. Two friends if mine took this drug as pain relief after serious car crashes.
Both were surprised at the strength of this drug.

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If being at cas sorts him out I'd rather he stayed there. He came across as a man in a much better mental state last night.

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Quote: Clearwing "If being at cas sorts him out I'd rather he stayed there. He came across as a man in a much better mental state last night.'"

According to someone on the VT, he'd said in an interview on Sky that it got to the point where he wasn't that bothered whether Leeds won or lost. That's when it's time to move on, and fair play to him for being proactive in that move. I also hope it works out for him at Cas.

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He's still mates with the leeds lads or atleast it seems on social media, I believe 100% it's down to the coaching staff. If you've got a ty boss you start to hate your job, same for players some just handle it better then others.

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Quote: Piratezeek "He's still mates with the leeds lads or atleast it seems on social media, I believe 100% it's down to the coaching staff. If you've got a rubbish boss you start to hate your job, same for players some just handle it better then others.'"

Im one of the Coaches biggest critics but no way is he at fault for seriel offender Hardakers inability to grow up & maintain a pro approach to the Club & his team mates.

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Quote: Piratezeek "He's still mates with the leeds lads or atleast it seems on social media, I believe 100% it's down to the coaching staff. If you've got a rubbish boss you start to hate your job, same for players some just handle it better then others.'"


Yup, the players have been queuing up to leave since McDermott took charge. It's worth noting that in the real world there are bosses aplenty who'd have sacked Hardaker long ago. It's also worth noting that Zak, with all his lack of brains and his love of social media, has never once expressed the view that Leeds mistreated him. Believe me, were that the case I think we'd have heard it by now.

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