Yes whenever the time comes that Wane isn't the coach at Wigan anymore it would be interesting to see what he did afterwards and if he went to try coach at another club. The key part of his coaching is how passionate he is about Wigan, both the club and the town, so I think it'd be very hard for him to replicate that at another club.

Meh!

This ^^

Why is my sig (a quote from JP) inconsistent with what I posted? A good percentage of rugby and RL in particular is the physical confrontation. Some of the greatest players in history are thought of as great because of the way they responded to the physical challenge of the opposition. A lot of what people mince on about, shoving at the PTB, verbals, niggle on the floor, 3 or 4 men in the tackle is nothing. Wigan play tough RL, but it's still powderpuff stuff compared to when I started watching the game. Leeds fronted up, as I fully expected them to, and didn't let it bother them.
However, if you think I somehow "approve" of a $h1thouse like Farrell dropping on a defenceless players back after he's scored then you've got me wrong.
Do I like to see all the messing about and strutting around they do? No, but it's something you just have to get on with and deal with. Leeds, led by JP, Garbutt and Singleton up front did exactly that. Wigan play tough, and they push it to the edge, but if you front up to them and hold your discipline they can run out of ideas - exactly what happened in the end on Saturday.

Physical confrontation: but we were talking about a culture of niggly house stuff weren't we? You seem to be agreeing that a head butt has no place in RL. Agreed.
You then seemed to be also saying what Wigan did was legit and we should ignore it.

I get that wasn't what you were saying now though. So I'm glad we're agreed that Farrell's nonsense should be penalised and not tolerated by the ref or the players of the fans, and definitely not by his own coach - who I hold responsible for condoning that e by coming out with guff like moral victory after you lose a man to one of the worst things I've seen on a professional rugby field.

I have seen games before were mags can be wound up to the detriment of his game, which is clearly what Wigan were doing trying to put him off his game. The only one I had issue with was the late shove on mags after he scored. That one seemed to me to be an attempt to injure rather annoy him off his game.
Agree regarding the game is a lot cleaner than it used to be

Wigan have one style of play. They play it well, and its how they win games if they are allowed to play it. But for teams like Leeds, that can stand up to their bullying tactics (and primarily play a faster, free flowing fancy style of rugby league - which has always been the cub culture at Leeds), they don't know what to do. Teams like Leeds can close them down. Make them panic, make them make their tactics too obvious and give away penalties, and make Wigan very tired. (A final is a bit different as all players of all clubs raise their game)

Attack: Brute force your way down the field for 5 tackles, kick.
Defence: Hit them as hard as you can, hurt them, try to make them fear (Not respect your talent) you.

Wayne will do some serious mental damage to some fantastic players if he continues to take them down this path (Forcing them to be nasty and aggressive to win at all costs), they won't learn the necessary skills to perform different styles of gameplay, and they won't be the players they have the potential to be.

Bog brush?

https://www.facebook.com/JoiningJack/ph ... nref=story An insight into the Wigan culture, the evil empire Wane & Maguire created. "Last night Jack had the great honour of presenting the Wigan players with their jerseys ahead of today's final. Before Jack presented the jerseys Andy gave a speech to the players about how proud and privileged he was to have been from Wigan and to have been given the opportunity to wear the Wigan jersey, the proudest moment of his 13 year career was scoring a try for Wigan in a Premiership final. He then went on to say when your career ends, it really is over, there are no more finals or games. You have to seize every moment and have no regrets. He talked about the importance of family and making them proud. Jack will never have the experience of playing rugby or in final. Andy told the players how he is in the fight of his life to save his son. This is a fight he can't loose. The people who have come together to help him are his family, ex-teammates and the rugby community. With their help we are making clinical trials happen for Duchenne and are determined to change the future for our son and everyone with Duchenne"

https://www.facebook.com/JoiningJack/ph ... nref=story An insight into the Wigan culture, the evil empire Wane & Maguire created. "Last night Jack had the great honour of presenting the Wigan players with their jerseys ahead of today's final. Before Jack presented the jerseys Andy gave a speech to the players about how proud and privileged he was to have been from Wigan and to have been given the opportunity to wear the Wigan jersey, the proudest moment of his 13 year career was scoring a try for Wigan in a Premiership final. He then went on to say when your career ends, it really is over, there are no more finals or games. You have to seize every moment and have no regrets. He talked about the importance of family and making them proud. Jack will never have the experience of playing rugby or in final. Andy told the players how he is in the fight of his life to save his son. This is a fight he can't loose. The people who have come together to help him are his family, ex-teammates and the rugby community. With their help we are making clinical trials happen for Duchenne and are determined to change the future for our son and everyone with Duchenne"

This^^ Well said. Why some Leeds fans would rather denigrate their own teams fantastic achievement than give credit to Wigan is utterly beyond me.

There's been accusations of lack of class, win at all costs attitude and a bad culture at Wigan, I'm just pointing out that its not really the full story. Thats all.

It is a rare situation indeed that doesn't have two sides to the story. No one has suggested otherwise and I'm sure the vast majority of the Wigan club are decent people (just like most other organisations).

No-one or at least very few people on this board have any idea what has gone on between the Wigan and Leeds players but when normally very respectful people are more than willing to voice some disdain, you have to suspect that they have done so with good reason. Given some of the antics of Wane and others in the past, it doesn't take much to imagine the points of contention.