What a load of rubbish. How does any one of you know which player earns what, please don't quote the Daily Mail and their guesses. Have you any proof what you are guessing at

Theres ways and means pal. It doesnt bother me if you question the validity.

I think the surprise re Achurch wasn't the salary Leeds offered but the length of contract. Leeds offered him 4 years on a decent wedge. Penrith offered him a much shorter deal on terms that would be standard for a player in his early 20s with a JJB-like injury record and very few NRL matches under his belt - probably something close to minimum NRL wage until he proved his fitness. I don't think Leeds necessarily paid him a huge amount, just that by comparison to what Penrith were willing to pay it was a big increase.

No real proof whatsoever I'd say. However, you can't deny ever wondering how much our players earn, especially after Kevs speech after that GF. We won't ever know the answer but it makes for good discussion when fans are wanting to know what's left on the salary cap, and what type of player were hoping to sign.

The daily mail report was one of a few. I never said it was hard evidence, it's just interesting to throw in to the mix.

I wouldn't get too upset about it mate.

I've seen it through my job. It wasn't meant for the public domain but as it was 2 or 3 years ago and not that far off what was reported/suspected I don't feel too bad confirming it.

Point is that even with bonuses / sponsorship some of these players will struggle financially if their careers suddenly stop and also might not free up as much room on the salary cap as we think.

And even though I have zero "sources" or links to players or player's Dads I also knew for a fact a long time ago about The Canadian team playing in the UK next year but that's another story and we can all argue about how successful / what a waste of money that was next year

No such problem a decade ago, When Old Trafford would run with the Bulls, as Nobby stoked the 'awesome foursome' into battle for another tilt at GF glory.....them's were the days

It seems like an age ago now doesn't it, but it isn't really that long ago you were the top dogs. Unbelievable how things have unravelled since 2005. The Leeds- Bradford games back then were great too, would love to get those times back but seems a long way off right now.

Bullmania only really lasted from 1997-2003. Salary cap bashing, and Harris-gate put an end to their brief flirtation with success

Yes I feel we will be having a local derby with Keighley before we have another one with Leeds

I used to have similar dislike of the Bulls however I now just want them not only back in SL but also in a position to win things.

It would make the league stronger and more interesting.

Maybe I was just jealous of the Bulls' success back then (and was younger so less objective) but I do hope you guys get to turn things around before it's too late as whatever the things that went wrong you certainly got a lot of things right and to have over 20,000 in Odsall was fantastic.

Good luck for next season!

Well, they did reach the GF in 2004 and won it again, as we well know, in 2005. Although i would agree that the treble winning 2003 side was the peak. The Bulls fall from grace is a perfect example to any Leeds fan taking the current success for granted, enjoy it and soak it up while you can, because things can very quickly go pear shaped. Obviously we are in far better financial shape than the Bulls were, but you never know what is around the corner.