Quote: tad rhino "I mentioned credit for finals twice. how many times do you want it repeating. I know you are ageing but surely not that forgetful? JP and mcguire may not have played that game but they were both around and had been for seasons. clutching at straws to suit your argument?'"
My post that you first challenged made a first point that Mac' critics are quick to throw stones but find it difficult to give him credit. How many times have you praised Mac this season Tad? Your reply rather demonstrates this point.
You also "absolute rubbish"ed my second point that in early 2011 the team were not quite ready to play the new coaches chosen style saying that "he's had 5 years with more or less the same players"
Having pointed out to you that the majority of that team have left you moved your goal posts and changed your point to say "the majority of KEY players have been around for all of his tenure" as though this was a reason that the team were ready of the offload game at the start of Mac's tenure in 2011.
As you kindly pointed out my age gives me an excuse for memory loss but I do not need to use it on this occasion ....what is your excuse young lad? Given that Mags and JP missed the first 3 mths of 2011 and by the time they returned the 'harlem globetrotters' experiment had been phased out so you are left with Sinny...... A majority of one key player! So how does this disprove my point that at the start of 2011 the team were not ready for the offload game?
Quote: tad rhino "if you think we have no structure then you need to look again. the offloads are only part of it. the running across the line, drawing men into the tackle and going wide early, while sounding basic, is done to a very high structured standard. it's been worked on and worked on, for which, again, I have given plenty of credit.'"
I do not think I have said we have no structure. I believe this has been one of your calls over the years. There were plenty of clues in how we got to our many finals under BM that we had good defensive structure but you are one of those that assumed that whenever the players failed to keep to the structure you assumed it was because they had not been coached correctly.
On attack Mac prefers to give the players some leeway on the back of plays well worked out on the training field. When they come off they look great but when players are not at their best things look bad. It is at this time that you critics strike and blame the coach which I think shows a complete lack of understanding of what is within the control of the coach once the players take the field. So when I argue against his critics it is not because I believe him to be mistake free but that you should look at the players first because it is they who either make it happen of not depending on their form and timing.
Quote: tad rhino "hardaker played full back at Featherstone and plenty on here, including me, were calling for him to go there before webb retired. it was hardly rocket science, although he has got far better than I expected. best full back in then SL by miles, but not according to you!'"
Yes he did but he was primarily a winger in those days. Now once again Tad you are behind the times. What was said in previous seasons is valid or not at the time. I have stated my up to date views on Hardaker however my glasses do not have the same rose tint as yours.
Quote: tad rhino "whilst he deserves credit for evolving the team, which again I have said a few times, the real crunch is next season. this would be same whoever is the coach.'"
Yes next year will be a crunch year and one made more difficult by losing Kevin Sinfield earlier than perhaps had been planned and with serious injuries to JJB and Sutcliffe. However GH & Mac have made a good start with the pack but I do think we need some extra cover at 6 now we are losing our No1 key man.
Quote: tad rhino "as for being an expert on over playing players when forwards can hardly walk and he has used 2 subs in an hour you don't really have to be an expert to ask questions.'"
You are not aware of a coaches choices due to form on the training field, or knowledge of the players recovery time. Mac's tactics despite what you say have been successful so far this season.
Quote: tad rhino "we have played some awful stuff when he took over. dour, boring rugby. last season he started changing the style and has taken it further season for which, plenty of times, I have praised him for. unlike you who fail to see his shortcomings I call it as I see it'"
The players have played some awful boring stuff but why do you choose to blame the coach before the players?
You certainly call the negatives a lot quicker than the positives as you see them but remember t is only as you see them.
