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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Well our opinions differ then. He denied he ever said that to Rod Studd which is quite another thing to your quote and so he has a perfect right to disagree with Studd's allegation. '"


Eventually he said he'd never said it to Rod but it took him three attempts to get there.

McDermott first said "I'm not sure I've ever said that Rod"

(Ever, I would suggest, being the relevant word here.)

Then McDermott said "I don't think I've ever said that"

(Again the use of the word ever standing out.)

Before finally offering "I don't think I've ever said ever to you - you get what you deserve."

Hard to imagine a coach never saying what he was being 'accused' of saying to someone, somewhere, sometime - even if that individual wasn't actually ever Rod Studd.

Just seemed an odd way to respond to a question that implied that Leeds perhaps had been a little hard done by - which is a sentiment seen echoed since.

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Quote: tvoc "Eventually he said he'd never said it to Rod but it took him three attempts to get there.

McDermott first said "I'm not sure I've ever said that Rod"

(Ever, I would suggest, being the relevant word here.)

Then McDermott said "I don't think I've ever said that"

(Again the use of the word ever standing out.)

Before finally offering "I don't think I've ever said ever to you - you get what you deserve."

Hard to imagine a coach never saying what he was being 'accused' of saying to someone, somewhere, sometime - even if that individual wasn't actually ever Rod Studd.

Just seemed an odd way to respond to a question that implied that Leeds perhaps had been a little hard done by - which is a sentiment seen echoed since.'"


I feel sure Mac has plenty of experience of Studd and his wind up style and perhaps is not his favorite interviewer. Studd opened with an attempt to put words in Mac's mouth saying something like "I know you believe you get...etc". So, given that Mac would have been none too pleased with what had just happened in the match, Mac made clear he was not going to go along with Studd's little game.

By opening with "I know..." Studd had personalized his remark and therefore Mac's response was in that same personal context and his reply made clear Studd was quite wrong to assume he knew Mac's thoughts.

To take a phrase out of context is misleading as Mac was clearly addressing Studd personally as the whole exchange proved. It is hard enough for a coach to have to go on TV immediately after such an event with emotion running high but if you then have the interviewer trying to get you to make a remark that could land you in trouble it is understandable if the coach treats the wind up with contempt.

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I don't know of a specific instance yet when McDermott has said to Studd a phrase containing 'you get what you deserve' (evidence suggests the term being used on occasions) but both have been involved in their current roles for several seasons and I'm minded to believe it's a possibility.

McDermott appears to accept the possibility by each time qualifying the denial with a 'I'm not sure' or a 'I don't think'

I can't say I find Studd's line in questioning of coaches and players after games particularly provocative.

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And last but not least, to all those people who wrote this team off. To all those people who critisized this team...tonight's for you. K. Sinfield, GF 2011:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45465.jpg



Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I'll tell you what mate, I'm not half as worried as I was last week!

Leeds are the better side no question. Cuthbertson was some find and is my MoS so far. Added to that your three quarters are the best in the comp. I actually think that McGuire, annoying so and so that he is, has got plenty left in the tank, and Rob Burrow always scares me.

But, we have beaten you twice so far this season, both away from Headingley. With SOL and Bateman in the team and we were so much better than against Wire last week. Matty Bowen is having a strange season, brilliant one week and awful the next. When he is awful he costs us tries, but when he is good he is a match winner.

A lot depends on injuries - and who knows how much this Super 8 thing will affect the play offs. I think BMc said as much last week.

All in all, I'm quite confident that Wigan have a good chance. Leeds are favourites, and I think it's back to being a three horse race with Saints. Though Huddersfield might have a say.'"

Three horse race, really? You can't have seen how utterly inept Saints were last week. We could have scored 2 or 3 more tries after fluffing good chances and their 3 tries were "soft" to say the least (after we took our foot of the gas). Castleford and Huddersfield have been playing better than any of the "top" 3 recently. Should be a great end of season with quite a few clubs in with a shout.

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Quote: tvoc "I don't know of a specific instance yet when McDermott has said to Studd a phrase containing 'you get what you deserve' (evidence suggests the term being used on occasions) but both have been involved in their current roles for several seasons and I'm minded to believe it's a possibility.

McDermott appears to accept the possibility by each time qualifying the denial with a 'I'm not sure' or a 'I don't think'

I can't say I find Studd's line in questioning of coaches and players after games particularly provocative.'"


A bit of a tenuous line of criticism of our coach IMO. I would have thought you would be expressing your delight in Mac's achievements so far this season.

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Whilst we all know there aren't any pots handed out in July - there have been some welcome adjustments from the coach as he now appears to have moved in accord with some IMO valid points aired via this board last season.

Burrow's role within the squad - no longer vital eighty minute player... better sharing of forward workload with more use of the bench especially Singleton .... Handley worth an extended run albeit injury forced the coach's hand he could have gone conservative and shifted Ablett and Watkins around more.

Not sure where the credit for the recruiting of Cuthbertson goes but that has been the best bit of business done by Leeds in several seasons and transformed the attacking play.

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Burrow's role within the squad - no longer vital eighty minute player... '"
McDermott reduced Burrow's role from his first season

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Quote: tvoc "Whilst we all know there aren't any pots handed out in July - there have been some welcome adjustments from the coach as he now appears to have moved in accord with some IMO valid points aired via this board last season.
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So the fact that with one match to go before the super 8s we are in first place having scored 176 points more than our nearest rival and achieved it, in the main, in a most attractive style .........you attribute all this to him reading the critics on this board icon_lol.gif

Is this the best praise you can come up with. Even if we lose next week and finish 2nd this will be about 5 positions higher than you predicted at the start of the season - so surely even you have to give him some credit for this.

When Mac was winning pots eg successive Championships, World Club Champions and Challenge Cup final winners you moaned about our finishing position or our style of play. So now we are league leaders and the most attractive team you cannot give him the credit because we haven't won anything yet and anyway it is all down to the players taking their coaching instructions from the Southstanders forum I suppose icon_exclaim.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Is this the best praise you can come up with. Even if we lose next week and finish 2nd this will be about 5 positions higher than you predicted at the start of the season - so surely even you have to give him some credit for this.'"


Come on you've been on SouthStander long enough to know.....if we do finish top it'll be because the opposition are rubbish.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "So the fact that with one match to go before the super 8s we are in first place having scored 176 points more than our nearest rival and achieved it, in the main, in a most attractive style .........you attribute all this to him reading the critics on this board
It matters not one jot to Leeds what I (or anyone else) thinks or says on here - it only matters between ourselves.

Burrow being neither the prefereed starting hooker or scrum half has not come about 'because of' some views stated on here - I can only recall one poster suggesting a player's form was being adversely effected by comments made on here and that poster wasn't me.

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Quote: tvoc "I said McDermott has moved - I didn't say I knew his thoughts behind the move. Perhaps the coach is this season finally seeing what others were seeing back then.

As far as I am aware nothing finishes after the next game only which four clubs move from SL to compete in the middle eights. Won't the LLS be handed out after Round 30?

I would hope I moaned about both.

It matters not one jot to Leeds what I (or anyone else) thinks or says on here - it only matters between ourselves.

Burrow being neither the prefereed starting hooker or scrum half has not come about 'because of' some views stated on here - I can only recall one poster suggesting a player's form was being adversely effected by comments made on here and that poster wasn't me.'"



Ever the curmudgeon you are quick to criticise and never wrong. Like I said we are guaranteed to finish in the top 2 for the regular season with every chance of finish higher than you predicted which would have drawn some praise from most posters had they been as pessimistic as you were at the start of the season. Ever the optimist I still live in hope you will see come out from under that dark cloud one day and smell the roses icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: ThePrinter "Come on you've been on SouthStander long enough to know.....if we do finish top it'll be because the opposition are rubbish.'"


We have been on SS long enough to know if the team doesn't finish top and doesn't win anything you will pull out a string of excuses as why that didn't happen icon_biggrin.gif !!

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Quote: Sal Paradise "We have been on SS long enough to know if the team doesn't finish top and doesn't win anything you will pull out a string of excuses as why that didn't happen
They did win something last year icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "They did win something last year Where did i say tbey didnt?

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