JJB might be named at 10 and Cuthbertson at 13, but their roles within the team are loose-forward and prop respectively. Neither will change their game, irrespective of where on the team sheet they are named. Carry down the middle, defend in the middle third.

Pfft. Suprised you're still bothering with this stuff now that you're famous thanks to The Last Leg...

Jjb being too small for prop is nonsense. Prop is a mindset rather than a bodyshape. Jjb used to be a wide runner, but is not so effective out wide. He is still a workhorse though. Defensively he will be closer to the middle, but defense is probably his strong point. Even if his carries are affected by his size, he can't be worse than 10 minutes of leuluai, or the combined 8 carries from kirke and Bailey. It frees up the second row for players who are a bit more dynamic like ablett and Ward

Prop is about providing go forward - JJB is too small to provide consistent yardage gain. If the player is no longer able to play his position effectively an unsuitable position should not be found just because he is a member of the golden generation. JJB has been a fantastic player for Leeds but all good things eventually have to come to an end.

Always though JJB looked better playing prop personally. He is certainly not as good as other backrow options, and as Printer implies MCDermott is hardly going to drop him, so where else. Wonder rather see him spelled at prop than offering us nothing from backrow.

Personally, I don't think JJB is quick enough to play 2nd row anymore and his defensive decision making would be less exposed in the middle than further wide.

So if McDermott named Cuthbertson at 10 on the teamsheet and JJB at 13, what do you think would change about their respective games Sal and Gotcha?

Who mentioned JJB playing 13? Shouldn't be there full stop.

Don't agree with you at all. Please make sure you don't alert McDermott to this line of thought because we may see little Rob Burrow shoehorned in at prop.

Tony Smith used to play JJB at prop. I don't remember us being adversely effected.

If JJB tells McDermott he can play 10 then I think that will influence McDermott's thought processes. Yes I do think if he named JJB at 10 he would be defending more in the middle and he would be doing more fist play carries. If he named him 13 he would defending out wider and have more running plays.

When did he do that - not very often and certainly not in any game that really mattered.

21 times in 2005 & 2006. Including games vs Wigan, St Helens, Hull and Bradford.

Even though it's not that relevant anyway. That was the JJB then not the JJB now.

I wouldn't have a problem with JJB at prop as long he's not the "main prop" expected to do the heaviest of work. If he's got Peacock, Leuluai/Cuthbertson & Singleton alongside him it could be quite a good move to have someone a bit quicker at prop too.

Although all this talk of "moving JJB to prop" is a bit false anyway. All we're talking about in reality is him playing a bit more in the middle than further wide. What position someone is named at is irrelevant really, there are different roles each named position could play anyway.

You might want to check the lineups for the 2006 playoff defeat to Warrington and the 2006 CC Semi Fonal defeat vs Hudds.

He played prop mainly in 2006, and that was cited as one of the main reasons for Leeds having a poor season that year IIRC