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Quote: tvoc "Do you have any comments re the actual game or is it just going to be more of the same ?

Leeds won both the semi-final and final but the 'nothing play' only occurred in the game Leeds appeared almost as frightened to win as they were to lose. I hope the 'nothing play' has no part to play in the future shape of the game - and I suspect it won't.

Leeds' last win at Wembley (before Saturday and after an even longer gap between Challenge Cup successes) relied more on scoring points when in advantageous positions rather than handing the ball over to the opposition.'"


At a time of great joy for most Leeds fans you still have to be the wet blanket. Your comments above regarding what in your eyes are "nothing play" only indicates a lack of real understanding of rugby. Field position is a vital part of the game as is control. What to your eyes were "nothing play" in fact were a key part of the game plan and a major reason that Leeds dominated and won the game.

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Quote: rhino4eva "It's about time Offiah's "best ever Cup final try was put to bed"
Ryan's first try has to be the best wingers finish EVER.
shades of Mal Meninga, Eric Grothe as he powered over the defence as if they weren't there
I guess you are not very old or then maybe very very old.

As a Wigan fan I'll give you a few tries better than Halls than and all scored at Wembley, Billy Boston v Hull, Brett Kenny v Hull, Henderson Gill v Hull, Ellery Hanley v Halifax, Ellery Hanley v Saints, Mark Preston v Warrington, Martin Offiah v Castleford, Martin Offiah v Leeds and Joel Tomkins v Leeds.

Now that's just Wigan I'm sure there are fans of other clubs who tell you the same. For instance Ton Van Vollenhoven v Wigan.

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Sinfield rightly deserves stick for running the penalty against Bradford. It was an easy two points when we were behind by two, going for a try was an utterly ridiculous decision.

But kicking the ball into touch and getting Cas locked down in their own half time after time was a fine and sensible play. Sure, we might have got lucky on another play and scored another try had we bombed them, but we could have also been unlucky and allowed Cas a break which murdered us. In the first half we were almost totally dominant and had it fairly easy, but that dominance wasn't reflected on the scoreboard and I have no problem with us being ultra conservative as the game went on.

If you put up big kicks to try and get another try, that means the whole team have to follow that kick and get set quickly so the defence is solid. Booting the ball into touch meant that the players could stroll to the scrum and instantly know exactly what they faced defensively. I don't think that Cas were in any way happy to see us kicking to touch each time, I think they knew we'd got them in a headlock and we weren't going to let them out.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I guess you are not very old or then maybe very very old.

As a Wigan fan I'll give you a few tries better than Halls than and all scored at Wembley, Billy Boston v Hull, Brett Kenny v Hull, Henderson Gill v Hull, Ellery Hanley v Halifax, Ellery Hanley v Saints, Mark Preston v Warrington, Martin Offiah v Castleford, Martin Offiah v Leeds and Joel Tomkins v Leeds.

Now that's just Wigan I'm sure there are fans of other clubs who tell you the same. For instance Ton Van Vollenhoven v Wigan.'"


Well, first of all he did say winger so that rules out Kenny, Hanley and Tomkins.

I actually thought Offiah's 2nd against us in the 94' final was just as good as the iconic first, when Cassidy broke and put him away, the significance of that was huge too as we had all the momentum after being 12 points down at HT.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I guess you are not very old or then maybe very very old.

As a Wigan fan I'll give you a few tries better than Halls than and all scored at Wembley, Billy Boston v Hull, Brett Kenny v Hull, Henderson Gill v Hull, Ellery Hanley v Halifax, Ellery Hanley v Saints, Mark Preston v Warrington, Martin Offiah v Castleford, Martin Offiah v Leeds and Joel Tomkins v Leeds.

Now that's just Wigan I'm sure there are fans of other clubs who tell you the same. For instance Ton Van Vollenhoven v Wigan.'"

The great John Atkinson also scored a great great try at Wembley too but my favourite was the semi final try in 1968 , but I suppose you can only beat the calibre of player trying to mark you

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Quote: lionarmour87 "The great John Atkinson also scored a great great try at Wembley too but my favourite was the semi final try in 1968 , but I suppose you can only beat the calibre of player trying to mark you'"


I believe Green Vigo said the same. icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I believe Green Vigo said the same. Well no excuse ,but Atkinson had just come off Nightshift with the police ,but then again Vigo could have stated 'oh but I had had a night on the beer so what'never the less why didn't you give Atkey a mention ?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I believe Green Vigo said the same. John Atkinson legend of the game.
Green Vigo one memorable game against Leeds disappeared without a trace. See leroy rivet, Kevin penny. Etr

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I guess you are not very old or then maybe very very old.

As a Wigan fan I'll give you a few tries better than Halls than and all scored at Wembley, Billy Boston v Hull, Brett Kenny v Hull, Henderson Gill v Hull, Ellery Hanley v Halifax, Ellery Hanley v Saints, Mark Preston v Warrington, Martin Offiah v Castleford, Martin Offiah v Leeds and Joel Tomkins v Leeds.

Now that's just Wigan I'm sure there are fans of other clubs who tell you the same. For instance Ton Van Vollenhoven v Wigan.'"


So e great try's there. The Hanley one against Halifax is one of my favs. But halls two try's where very special. Not all try's have to be length of field to be spectacular or great try's. And a few of the above where from very iffy defences in high scoring games.

Halls two try's will go down as great wembley try's.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I guess you are not very old or then maybe very very old.

As a Wigan fan I'll give you a few tries better than Halls than and all scored at Wembley, Billy Boston v Hull, Brett Kenny v Hull, Henderson Gill v Hull, Ellery Hanley v Halifax, Ellery Hanley v Saints, Mark Preston v Warrington, Martin Offiah v Castleford, Martin Offiah v Leeds and Joel Tomkins v Leeds.

Now that's just Wigan I'm sure there are fans of other clubs who tell you the same. For instance Ton Van Vollenhoven v Wigan.'"


Its a purely subjective matter but for me both of Halls tries were special and rank up there with any you have quoted IMHO

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Quote: rollin thunder "So e great try's there. The Hanley one against Halifax is one of my favs. But halls two try's where very special. Not all try's have to be length of field to be spectacular or great try's. And a few of the above where from very iffy defences in high scoring games.

Halls two try's will go down as great wembley try's.'"



I'd have to watch it again, but I'm pretty sure Hanley's try against Fax shouldn't have been given because Hanley was stood infront of the PTB.

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Hanley was always ahead of the play the ball.,

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Quote: G1 "Hanley was always ahead of the play the ball.,'"


Lined up with opposition defensive line, bullying ref, I presume.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I'd have to watch it again, but I'm pretty sure Hanley's try against Fax shouldn't have been given because Hanley was stood infront of the PTB.'"


No Lydon caught the ball directly from a kick, beat about four men and turned it inside to Hanley who went under the posts. Then Graham Edie dropped on Hanley with his his knees.

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Quote: G1 "Hanley was always ahead of the play the ball.,'"



I used to watch him do this. When tackled he would stand, play the bal,l and then walk off down the pitch and be in front of the next play the ball. icon_lol.gif

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