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But don't Leeds struggle in the CC Final games??

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Quote: Dead Man Walking "Shall we not bother turning up on the 23rd then seeing as you think Leeds will win rather easily as I'd not want to waste my time going there just to get a battering
Well, that's up to you really isn't it icon_wink.gif

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Not sure where all this underestimating Cas comes from.
I for one will not be underestimating them nor will the Leeds players.
They have nothing to lose and if they do lose well it is no major shock to the RL World.
They will go out to enjoy the occasion and play free flowing rugby that might get them the result.
They will certainly have the desire and so will Leeds.
They will also have the majority of neutrals cheering them on.
So let`s hope we go down the seige mentality with our backs to the walls and come out fighting.
This game could go either way and is another one difficult to call IMO.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Millington and Huby are going to be a big loss for Cas but Clarke on that very wide wembley pitch does scare me a lot'"


Clarke doesn't need a wide pitch to scare me although the extra width at Wembley may give him the extra 1/2 yard's gap which is all he needs. We really need to pressure him, slow the ruck down so he can't scoot and ensure that we have both markers in place at the PTB otherwise he'll exploit us.

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So you get 2 from 25,000 Leeds fans thinking Leeds will win easily. Which on RLFANS.COM is translated that all Leeds fans think they will win easily.

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Quote: thebloodbath "But let's not also presume Cas can turn up in a major final. All new ground to them, let's see how they handle the occasion.'"


But we must presume they will turn up as anything less would be very foolish

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Quote: LeedsDave "Well, that's up to you really isn't it
On second thoughts then I'll be there that day. Hopefully it'll be a nice fun day for all of us there. icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Fat Boy "Clarke doesn't need a wide pitch to scare me although the extra width at Wembley may give him the extra 1/2 yard's gap which is all he needs. We really need to pressure him, slow the ruck down so he can't scoot and ensure that we have both markers in place at the PTB otherwise he'll exploit us.'"


Correct. He flourishes from quick PTBs and stepping forward from the mark.

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Quote: Old Feller "I've previously been underwhelmed by Shenton, pacy but defensively weak I've always thought. But this year he's been a revelation in attack & defence plus he's a good leader of the team.'"


I always rated Shenton defensively, but felt he was starved of quality ball at Saints to do much in attack. I'd say he's a better defender than Watkins, but Watkins has the superior attack - especially with his running & footwork.

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Quote: RhinoNeil "So you get 2 from 25,000 Leeds fans thinking Leeds will win easily. Which on RLFANS.COM is translated that all Leeds fans think they will win easily.'"


Which, by the laws of RLFANs.COM automatically means leeds will lose so cas can talk about how everyone in leeds thought it would be easy and how they sure showed us.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "I always rated Shenton defensively, but felt he was starved of quality ball at Saints to do much in attack. I'd say he's a better defender than Watkins, but Watkins has the superior attack - especially with his running & footwork.'"


Maybe my comments were based on the frequency & the manner in which Senior always outmuscled him, mind you he did that to most of his opponents.
The only exception was Jamie Lyon when they tended to nullify each other.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Which, by the laws of RLFANs.COM automatically means leeds will lose so cas can talk about how everyone in leeds thought it would be easy and how they sure showed us.'"


What is wrong with Leeds fans expressing optimism about the Leeds team on the Leeds forum? It will not have a bearing on the result.

Does it matter if fans from other clubs come to gloat if Leeds lose? I have not met any of the regular message board users from southstander, so why should I care if they are ridiculed by fans of other clubs? 5 minutes in the real southstand should make it clear that a significant portion of our fans know v. little about the game or its rulings - why are you surprised when they express similar views on an internet forum?

But on the specific issue of the CC final result, YOU in all your wisdom cannot say that Leeds will definitely not win by a large score. Are you always right? To be honest I get the impression that you always want to diminish Leeds' chances of winning anything for fear of being pulled up by fans of other clubs (who you are even less likely to have met), but secretly you believe Leeds will win and are too afraid to admit.

I think Leeds will win it, by roughly a 10 point margin.

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It's reverse psychology, if the fans rubbish their team's chances & bull up the opposition's then thier side is bound to win.
Obvious really, since what we say, what we wear & our match-day routine all have a bearing on how the team performs on the pitch.

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Quote: cas all the way "Arrogance of some Leeds fans that's all. We have played you twice and you have beaten us by 8 and then it was a draw. I believe we sit on the same amount of points in the league as you but scores a hefty amount of tries more. Your defence has been much better though.

Still don't see how any of you can say we will batter Cas or we will win easy etc.... Why have played in 3 major games this season I would say. The draw against you which if we had lost would of left us out of the running for top. Wigan in the quaters where we conceded 4 points. Widnes in the semis where we conceded 6 points. The occasion hasn't got to us yet so I think that will be no problem.

It's going to be a close game but I do think you will win. I just think it's ignorant that some of you are still putting us down.'"

It happens with both group of fans and it will intensify as the game gets closer

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Quote: Old Feller "It's reverse psychology, if the fans rubbish their team's chances & bull up the opposition's then thier side is bound to win.
Obvious really, since what we say, what we wear & our match-day routine all have a bearing on how the team performs on the pitch.'"


I think that there may be a modicum of truth with the influence that fans have on a team's performance - BMcD, JP and Sinny have all expressed an opinion about the way Leeds fans have lifted them on several occasions.

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