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Back to Watkins, I suspect the feeling was he might run it off. Which to some extent he did but perhaps not as quickly as hoped. I'm not sure subbing him would've made much difference; we were simply below par in too many other areas. Too few attacking options and, regardless of coach, we don't have one player who can turn a game around single-handedly. To win we need the whole team to perform well as a unit and while the effort was there last night, this they didn't do.

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The missus said to me, about 60 minutes in "what we need is an Ali" - and she's got a point.

We don't have a game changing sub any more. Someone who can come on and make a real impact. To an extent we have Burrow who, when played off the bench can come on and mix it up a bit but when he's played from the off the opposition have his number by 10 minutes in.

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Quote: Gotcha "He was rubbish tad. People talk about structure, and Burrow is the exact reason why we don't play with any.

Run so many times and a couple of times you are going to make a break. So many times he ran up his own Harris. His kicking game was shocking. That is why Sinfield should be no where near dummy half after the first three tackles. Unless you have another decent long range kicker, which we don't, then you don't have your only one at the play the ball.

I have been critical of McGuire, and he played on one leg last night, but still looked far more dangerous in a creative fashion than Burrow. But I do agree with the sky team that perhaps McGuire should have been at dummy half.'"



mcguire did absolute jack . burrow looked dangerous with ball in hand and i suggest you watch his kicking again. by far our best half back. mcguire offered nothing whatsoever

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Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
At to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions ask job

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Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
As to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions asked job

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Quote: tad rhino "mcguire did absolute jack poop. burrow looked dangerous with ball in hand and i suggest you watch his kicking again. by far our best half back. mcguire offered nothing whatsoever'"


Totally agree, McGuire did absolutely nothing and was lucky not to get penalised as all he seems to do in the tackle these days is constantly niggle.
Sutcliffe should have been on from the start.

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Quote: tad rhino "mcguire did absolute jack poop. burrow looked dangerous with ball in hand and i suggest you watch his kicking again. by far our best half back. mcguire offered nothing whatsoever'"


Quite right Tad

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Quote: Wayne12 "Watkins should have gone off at half time and given Sutcliffe a good run
As to burrow well if you took his metre forward deducted his metres backwards and nullified his metres side wards if think you would end up with a game average of minus 200 metres
McGuire is finished just like he was last season
JJB Peacock and Kyle need to retire
Leeds have had a great run but one plan McDermott will now run the old guys into the ground and another club will takeover from Leeds

Wigan St. Helens Bradford and Leeds have had an era. Wire and although it grieves me to say it giants are in the ascendency
Wire will win next week I fancy and McDermott will snuggle up in his permanent no questions asked job'"


Saying it twice doesn't make it right. In fact it highlights the lack of a balanced view

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3times now thanks

Oh believe me I have balance

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Quote: Wayne12 "3times now thanks

Oh believe me I have balance'"


No I don't believe you having read your posts

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If only you knew. LOL

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Quote: Wayne12 "If only you knew. LOL'"


Care to elaborate, I'm intrigued?

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Not really but I do know a about rugby league from an official perspective

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Quote: Wayne12 "Not really but I do know a about rugby league from an official perspective'"


No worries.

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Some very poor coaching decisions most of the season with regards to team selection. Whilst we had our fair share of injuries it seems the coach has not planned well enough for their replacements. JJB should not have played last week or this week we had an able replacement in Singleton. Whilst McGuire kicked the winning goal last week and became a hero. He too should not of played last week or this week. Burrow runs sideways more than forward and Seinfeld is getting slower each week. We play without a recognised hooker which for a champion team is a flipping joke. Kylie needs to retire now enough is enough. The worlds best winger needs to find some pace. As stated previously Watkins should have been subbed. Moon,Ablett JP take a bow and I will admit Kirk played well for the amount of time he had on the pitch. Clarkson was poor again . No organisation against a Wigan team who were only slightly above average last night against a Leeds team who played with guts but nothing else.

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