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I'm a massive Tiger Woods fan but can't believe he got away with a 2 stroke penalty, anyone else would have been DQ'd for signing their scorecard wrong!

Hope he goes on to win still though, imagine the controversy icon_biggrin.gif

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Should be DQd. He admitted playing from the wrong place! He would go up in my estimation if he DQd himself!

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Quote: Harrigan "You can't say that's the future of golf from 1 round by the kid. He's 14, playing as an amateur, in his 1st masters knowing that he has a very good chance of making the cut. I bet now he's in there won't be any time problems today. I wasn't saying he didn't deserve it by the way. I was just passing comment that he received it. It's not the norm either. 5 hour rounds are normal in majors because every shot means so much. You rarely get that in a regular PGA tour event.

And stop bring pedantic, it was late. You knew which hole I meant
5 hour rounds are common place on the US tour - he is a very young player who should be capable of playing at a good pace. At the Wells Fargo the average time time was 4hr 40 mins.

Pedantic - no just correcting your errors

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Quote: Paddock Punter "Should be DQd. He admitted playing from the wrong place! He would go up in my estimation if he DQd himself!'"


Why should he - why didn't the on course rules official or his playing partners point that out to Woods when he took an illegal drop?

This only came to light when a tv viewer point the error out - I suppose he didn't keep the point at which the ball crossed the hazard between himself and the hole?

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The stupid thing is, the officials reviewed it at the time and said it was ok. It's only Woods' press conference interview that made them take the decision to penalise him. It's a strange one. Tiger didn't know he was in the wrong because he was told he hadnt done anything wrong at the time. To me, it seems like the officials messed up and as they told him it was ok in the 1st place, they cant DQ him but to save face they have penalised him.

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The issue for me is there is only a select few players who would got away without being DQ. Also regarding the slow play they need to look at the rules regarding this. There are some very bad offenders who know there way around the rules and speed up and then slow back down.

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Quote: Harrigan "The stupid thing is, the officials reviewed it at the time and said it was ok. It's only Woods' press conference interview that made them take the decision to penalise him. It's a strange one. Tiger didn't know he was in the wrong because he was told he hadnt done anything wrong at the time. To me, it seems like the officials messed up and as they told him it was ok in the 1st place, they cant DQ him but to save face they have penalised him.'"


I honestly believe the incident wasn't reviewed by the officials at the time, but they have found a handy way to keep the world No 1 in the competition

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If they tell him on course there's no penalty and then change their minds at night then how can you disqualify him though? He signed his card with the understanding what he did was ok. He didn't sign the card with the intention of cheating. It was only after the card had been signed that they decided maybe they made a mistake in the 1st place.

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Quote: Ferdy "I honestly believe the incident wasn't reviewed by the officials at the time, but they have found a handy way to keep the world No 1 in the competition'"



If they had or they hadn't, there are referees following every match who should pick up on it. Look at Dustin Johnson in the sand a couple of years back. If Tiger didnt realise he had made a mistake and the match referee didn't realise either (and lets face it, they should be watching how a player drops the ball) then I think a 2 shot penalty is the correct call.

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Quote: Harrigan "If they tell him on course there's no penalty and then change their minds at night then how can you disqualify him though? He signed his card with the understanding what he did was ok. He didn't sign the card with the intention of cheating. It was only after the card had been signed that they decided maybe they made a mistake in the 1st place.'"

From the interviews I have seen woods didn't get told on the course it was ok. I really do believe if this had occurred to some other player they would have been DQ.
He best not knock one of my bets out of the running!!! Would not be happy then

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Quote: Ferdy "From the interviews I have seen woods didn't get told on the course it was ok. I really do believe if this had occurred to some other player they would have been DQ.
He best not knock one of my bets out of the running!!! Would not be happy then'"


I still wouldn't have thought it had been fair, no matter who it was. ATEOTD he did something that he thought was legal. It turned out it wasn't. The referees didn't pick up on it and it wasn't even mentioned on TV, which it normally is if it's that blatant. If he was aware that he had signed a wrong score on his card then fair enough, like say for instance he miscounted and put down a 5 instead of a 6, but he signed for the score he posted and was only made aware of the error after.

His score has been rectified and it is what it should have been after his error. It's not like he has been let off.

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Quote: Harrigan "I still wouldn't have thought it had been fair, no matter who it was. ATEOTD he did something that he thought was legal. It turned out it wasn't. The referees didn't pick up on it and it wasn't even mentioned on TV, which it normally is if it's that blatant. If he was aware that he had signed a wrong score on his card then fair enough, like say for instance he miscounted and put down a 5 instead of a 6, but he signed for the score he posted and was only made aware of the error after.

His score has been rectified and it is what it should have been after his error. It's not like he has been let off.'"


For me as in law ignorance is not a defence. And we shall agree to disagree because I think he has been let off, as I say the pannel would have DQ most other players.

I think he needs to invest some of his millions into a rule book. Not the first time he has made error this year

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Quote: Ferdy "For me as in law ignorance is not a defence. And we shall agree to disagree because I think he has been let off, as I say the pannel would have DQ most other players.

I think he needs to invest some of his millions into a rule book. Not the first time he has made error this year'"



Someone's watching the BBC icon_wink.gif

I'm just not a fan of anyone getting DQ'd for something as stupid as that. If it had have been picked up on at the time he would have been handed a 2 shot penalty and been in the exact same position as he is now. Human error should be allowed. he has been penalised what he should have been at the time and we should just let them get on with it. I never agree'd with the rule even before they made that amendment. Like I said, if you intentionally cheat, that's fair enough. He didn't though and he has been penalised what he should have been yesterday.

He is Tiger Woods though and people love to hate him. Personally, I look past his personality and indiscretions and know that I want to see his talent as much as possible on the TV, because it's not often you get to see something like what he delivers.

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Quote: Harrigan "Someone's watching the BBC
I am!!!!
Made the switch from sky.

I don't dislike him that much, and personally after his "indiscretion" I actually liked him a little better.
I don't like the sulking and pouting that goes with him but agree some of his play is special to watch. I think one of my favourite woods performances was in the play off for the us open? Against rock mediate.

What I don't like about this decision is that I am positive most other players would have copped a DQ. I appreciate what you are saying though

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Quote: Ferdy "I am!!!!
Made the switch from sky.

I don't dislike him that much, and personally after his "indiscretion" I actually liked him a little better.
I don't like the sulking and pouting that goes with him but agree some of his play is special to watch. I think one of my favourite woods performances was in the play off for the us open? Against rock mediate.

What I don't like about this decision is that I am positive most other players would have copped a DQ. I appreciate what you are saying though'"



I have Sky and BBC on but I'm with BBCs comms, mainly because I can't stand to listen to Mongomerie. He's so full of himself it's unbelievable. Anyone would think he beat Jack's record by 1 the way he goes on.

The way I see his moods and sulkyness is because he's a winner and anything less than perfect isn't good enough. People said the same about James Graham, but that's because he's a winner too. I prefer that attitude over someone who has no drive. It separates the good from the great.

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