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Quote: RatedRKO "Wrong. The tackle was not even close to being high, it was a bad head clash, as shown on the replay and Bentham said he had called held.'"



Whether it was high or not what you think, where the hell do you get he was held? He was tackled more than 10 yards further forward, the ref blew because of the Bulls player laid out, then took Baile back to where that incident was. Completely wrong and ridiculous decision.

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Are some of your fans really still trying to blame the ref? icon_biggrin.gif

There were a few dodgy calls both ways, as there are in every game. Stop trying to find someone to blame other than your players and just be pleased that there is some 'passion' back in our derby.

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Quote: Czech Bull "Are some of your fans really still trying to blame the ref? Its a pity your own fans cannot follow your advice.Didn't the RAB forum go into meltdown after the Bulls home defeat to St Helens with Mr Roby as referee? Take the plank out of your own eye icon_rolleyes.gif

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7 pages of moaning about a ref who most people think did ok in a great game. Lets get over it, we have a game in 72 hours so long as we can clear the snow from Odsal!!! Enjoy your trip to France, trust the weather is better for you guys!!

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Jamie Peacock didnt play well tonight at the end. Rest of game he was fine.
Still think the ref has the RL Chief exec's ear to keep the league as close as possible though. Every time except 2 has had a draw i think!!!

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Quote: meast "apart from the sinfield knock on that wasn't bentham was spot on tonight with just about everything,i agree that whitehead was lucky to not see at least yellow but it was the leeds players petulance and niggling that threw that game away,peacock especially was to blame for 2 decisions going bradfords way that otherwise would have probably seen leeds home.
great game for the neutrals though.'"


What he said. Pathetic blaming the ref with some of the poor decision making & standard of play from the players.

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One of the worst refereeing performances of the year if not more

Got every contentious decision wrong, and seemed to be guessing most of the time.

he missed knock ons , he got turnover rulings wrong, he wasn't consistent at all.

then obviously got the hump with Leeds & seemed hell bent on getting the Bulls over for that last try

what rounded the night off for me was Scruton trying to take Baileys head off getting laid out flat in the process then Bailey getting marched back 10 yards & told off

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Have Rhinos never won a game off the back of some poor decisions. Of course not, they're always the victims.

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Quote: tvoc "Peacock played the ball and then went after Bateman. I don't think he left Bentham much option in the circumstance. It was an incredibly dumb thing for him to do especially in that game situation and field position. He got precisely what he deserved at that point, likewise with his eventual sin-binning for dissent. Sarcastically applauding the referee's decision may curry favour with his coach but they're as daft as each other if they think any official worth his salt is going to put up with that.

If you've got any specific examples of Bradford player's doing likewise we can discuss those as well.'"

Why do you feel the need to repeat what JP did?
I've already said it was a penalty and agree his dissent deserved a yellow but ateod all that happened in the 1st incident was pushing.
As for specific incidents Sammut x2 and L'estrange committed just the same offences in the 2nd half which could have resulted in penalties that weren't given and im sure if you look hard enough there'll be others showing Leeds players doing the same so if he isnt penalising the offence earlier why wait to do it at all it points to inconsistency imo.
Also for the visitors to the forum not once have i blamed the official for the result and posted clearly the draw was a fair result in the end.

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Having just caught the Whitehead dump tackle and aftermath I'm still at a loss as to how Bentham allows him to stay on the pitch

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I can't believe fans are calling for a Red for that 'Spear tackle'

There was no intent to spear, it was a tackle around the waist, there was no lifting between the legs there was no driving the player into the deck. When the player went past the horizontal he started to pull out of the tackle realising the way he was going.

You see those kind of tackles every couple of weeks and every time it's a penalty because the tackle has become dangerous. But it's simply down to the way bodies move in the tackle. You can't in a split second account for the way a player is going to fall.

To me it's very similar to a high shot when a player is going down in the tackle. There is no intent but because it ends up around his head a penalty must be given, regardless of the fact the players intent.

But as I said earlier, fans have their blinkers on and only see what they want to see. If we are going to red every player who makes dangerous tackles, then Leeds and Bradford would have had about 5 or 6 reds between them last night, simply from tackles that hit high despite the intention.

We could start with Maguire who gave a lovely high shot near the end of the game. No contact with the shoulders, straight red, no need to look at intent or the fact the player was falling causing maguire to end up around the head.

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Quote: tenerifeRhino "One of the worst refereeing performances of the year if not more

Got every contentious decision wrong, and seemed to be guessing most of the time.

he missed knock ons , he got turnover rulings wrong, he wasn't consistent at all.

then obviously got the hump with Leeds & seemed hell bent on getting the Bulls over for that last try

what rounded the night off for me was Scruton trying to take Baileys head off getting laid out flat in the process then Bailey getting marched back 10 yards & told off'"

wrong.
he got one decision wrong all night,the knock on against sinfield,the rest of the time he had no option but to penalise both teams for indiscipline,leeds in particular were petulant and niggly in the last 10-15 minutes when they should have been composed and seen the game out.are you suggesting bentham was wrong to penalise peacock for his push on bateman? had he not done that sinfield would have probably won the game with the drop goal.
are you seriously suggesting he was wrong to penalise leeds for offside in the last 2 minutes and giving peacock his marching orders thus allowing bradford to steal a point? even before that he could and should have got mcguire for pushing sammut as he was trying to play the ball.
not one of the officials calls last night cost leeds, as i've said previously,leeds players indiscipline cost leeds,to blame the officials is way off the mark.

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Quote: Lawrie L "Having just caught the Whitehead dump tackle and aftermath I'm still at a loss as to how Bentham allows him to stay on the pitch'"

he tells whitehead that he had already let him go before he hit the ground which is why he didn't send him off, to be fair to JJb he just got stright up and got on with it.

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As usual the comments on here are of mixed accuracy etc. Yes, Ablett and Peacock lost it and went into red mist mode. Sadly that's what happens when the ref spends almost the whole game forgetting to get the Bulls players onside (I did not notice it as much the other way - obviously), and gets no help from his touch judges, one of whom should have gone to Specsavers as he couldn't spot a forward pass when it was right in front of him ( 3 in one movement?) They should be able to rein it in - they didn't and it cost us. If Bails had shoved the young TJ he would have gone over as his thin long legs would not have been enough to hold him up. I just hate it when an officlal has the greatest influence on the outcome of a game instead of the players' skill and hate it even more if some players enhance that incompetence by losing their rag.
Without Bentham's many errors - both ways - we would probably have won, but we should be able to overcome his inept performance. Last night that was just too much and so a draw was probably a 'fair' but very disappointing result, because it was influenced by things other than the skills and talent that were on show from two sets of players.

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Quote: meast "he tells whitehead that he had already let him go before he hit the ground which is why he didn't send him off, to be fair to JJb he just got stright up and got on with it.'"



But he still took him beyond horizontal which still an issue

Correct call on JJB, top effort that which I didn't fully see in the South Stand

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