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Another thing that struck me is that you look at the 17s of Leeds and Wakefield before the season and how many Trinity players would get in the Leeds team? Cases could be made for Amor and Lauititi, obviously, but then we had options by which they could have been available. People say Raleigh had a good game, but if you'd looked at him and Griffin at Huddersfield you'd have definitely picked the latter.

In reality only Aiton would have made a joint Leeds/Wakefield team, but then he's an actual NRL-standard hooker and we've obviously no need for them now we've independently reinvented what hookers need to do.

So when a team of proven players have been coached so far backwards that a selection of misfits and journeymen marshalled by the genius that it Richard Agar can put 40 past you on your own patch, I'd tend to disagree with Brian McDermott and Dave Craven that this is "crisis averted".

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Quote: The Eagle " However a few years ago we were strong enough to win with our academy how times have changed. The fact that fringe players were ignored in favour of playes who had played a couple of days earlier was barmy. Shows how desperate McDermott is really'"

Have times changed? Our Academy is arguably even better now than it was the night we beat Castleford with them. The major difference is a coach who won't put his faith in them.

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Conceding 40 points in a match = icon_biggrin.gifOH:
Conceding 40 points at home = eusa_wall.gif
Conceding 40 points at home to a team not in the playoff places = icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: G1 "Have times changed? Our Academy is arguably even better now than it was the night we beat Castleford with them. The major difference is a coach who won't put his faith in them.'"


Compare with this quotehttps://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7473407.stmrl

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Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Conceding 40 points in a match


This just about sums things up.

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Quote: rhinoms "Sal-re-Lunt he was used as an impact BR which is something he clearly isn't.
We have a 30 man squad and only 2 injuries yet we picked the same old tired out of form players that just sums up how our coach thinks.'"


After seeing last night's game I'm coming around to your pov regarding the coach icon_wink.gif

Not a single player rested of the 10 who played two days ago.
Puzzling decision to have Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow, Lunt and Ward on the field all at the same time - did the players know what their roles were? It didn't look like they did. I thought McGuire was meant to be injured?
Virtually no structure in attack, which was dependent on one-out rugby and individual brilliance
Not much aggression in defence, which is starting to be reminiscent of 1996. How on earth did they let Tim Smith run through the middle unopposed?!

Some good moments from Hardaker, BJB, Hall, and Ablett.

Putting workhorse Delaney out in the centres when the team were tired in the middle was an odd decision. I thought Clarkson was pretty anonymous again after one semi decent hit-up (was he injured in the second half?), and McGuire gave too much away. Bailey needed to step up and didn't. Hauraki and Griffin seem low on confidence and looked OK if unspectacular going forward when they weren't making errors.

Lunt just isn't being used effectively in the backrow. I would have preferred him to start with Burrow coming off the bench, although this decision may have been influenced by Lunt having more game time for the Knights... Dunno how long he played in that game.

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Quote: G1 "
Quote: G1 " However a few years ago we were strong enough to win with our academy how times have changed. The fact that fringe players were ignored in favour of playes who had played a couple of days earlier was barmy. Shows how desperate McDermott is really'"

Have times changed? Our Academy is arguably even better now than it was the night we beat Castleford with them. The major difference is a coach who won't put his faith in them.'"

Thats sort of what I was getting at. The coach doesn't have faith in the full squad. Like them or loathe them we should have seen the likes of Singleton & Smith, along with Moore, Kirke & lee Smith. People should only have doubled up as a last resort

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Quote: Harrigan "...because we never score tries from forward passes, do we!
Couldnt agree more Harrigan I was retorting to a post saying that Agar was livid about a decision by the ref thats all, and yes it was a s**** game.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "
Lunt just isn't being used effectively in the backrow. I would have preferred him to start with Burrow coming off the bench, although this decision may have been influenced by Lunt having more game time for the Knights... Dunno how long he played in that game.'"

Is Liam Hood injured? This seemed like the perfect opportunity for him to get a run out with the first team again, particularly as the other two "hookers" were backing up.

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Quote: Leeds_Rhydon "Is Liam Hood injured? This seemed like the perfect opportunity for him to get a run out with the first team again, particularly as the other two "hookers" were backing up.'"


He's learning how to play against men at Halifax.

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Quote: DHM "He's learning how to play against men at Halifax.'"

sure you don't mean Dewsbury icon_wink.gif?

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Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Conceding 40 points in a match

Not the first time that has happened V Wakefield.

Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Conceding 40 points at home

Not the first time that has happened V Wakefield either.

Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Conceding 40 points at home to a team not in the playoff places

The third time that has happened. Perhaps still not as bad as when Huddersfield came across and posted 46 in 2001 whilst they were sat winless at the bottom of the table after the opening ten rounds.

The surprising thing is (and it's been mentioned already) Wakefield have had a near new squad assembled since their last league visit to Headingley, including a new coach. Only two of 17 on show last night played in that visit last season and one of them is Amor while still on-loan from Leeds. In those circumstances if they were able to stay within 40 points of the reigning Champions away from home that would be quite an achievement let alone scoring 40 points.

Says much about the current state of affairs at Headingley if McDermott can glean any satisfaction from that result.

Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "It doesn't fix everything but it was a very encouraging win.'"


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If it wasn't for the individual efforts from Hardaker and BJB it could have been all over by half time. A very discouraging win to me. BMD also said last night that if Wakefield play like that every week he can't see anyone beating them. What a puzzling statement that is after we'd just beaten them.

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Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "If it wasn't for the individual efforts from Hardaker and BJB it could have been all over by half time. A very discouraging win to me. BMD also said last night that if Wakefield play like that every week he can't see anyone beating them. What a puzzling statement that is after we'd just beaten them.'"


He's not the best talking to the media ar' Brian.

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Quote: MHL "sure you don't mean Dewsbury
Erm.. possibly. Wherever the men are that he needs to learn to play against.

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