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Quote: rhinostevo "anyone see his diabolical piece in todays edition? now he was always my favourite but todayi really can't stand up for him. slagging off peacock and kylie for being past it, jjb and ablet for having no presence and baily for being a penalty machine for the opposition. then to top it off by saying Leeds are bringing super league into disrepute!!'"


He has spoken the truth

Whats your problem?

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Quote: G1 "What isn't arguable is that GB lost that series 2 1 and got a shollacking in the 3rd test.'"

It wasn't a shellacking in that 3rd test but they were well beaten in the end 14-0.

Quote: G1 "GB have been "that close" many times since 1990.'"

They were closer in 1992 down under. Lost the 1st Test 6-22, won the 2nd Test 33-10 (masterminded by Schofield) and were edged out in the decider 16-10 (another great Schofield performance). I still haven't forgotten ET's try-saving tackle on Martin Offiah.

Since Schofield's international retirement, we've been nowhere near to beating the Australians in an Ashes Series or any other tournament for that matter. In fact, since Schofield's retirement, we've endured the heaviest defeats in our international history, like 64-10, 44-4, 52-4, 46-16... etc... Peacock played in all of those.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "It wasn't a shellacking in that 3rd test but they were well beaten in the end 14-0.

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I was there (as were probably a lot of guys on here) It was p!$$ wet that day. Suited the Australians and their ball control game better than GB, and still it was tight until they broke through on our left while Carl Gibson off the field injured. We were down to 12 men at the time. After that we just couldn't get into the game and control the ball enough in the wet to exert pressure on them.
Pressure in the end got to GB, not surprising as the hangover from '82 and '86 must have been a killer. Our chance was in the second test, and unlike on any other occaision since, GB very nearly took it.

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I agree with the comments above, two Ashes series revolved around small incidents at Old Trafford 1990 and Brisbane 1992, even the 1992 World Cup final was nip and tuck all the way through and came down to one slip by Alan Hunte that let Renouf in and made the difference.

When you think about the cricket Ashes 2005 and England winning by 2 runs at Edgbaston in a game that could easily have gone the other way and England been 2-0 down and no way back, those rugby Ashes in the early 1990s could have led to a very different history, GB could have won back to back Ashes had a bit of luck gone their way in key moments.

I do think the Aussies were the better team though, as they showed by beating us convincingly in some of the Tests, but we were close enough that we could have won. I still think that era was the golden age of rugby league, from around 1988 to 1995, in terms of who was playing the game and the amount of greats. More recently there has been a golden age in Australia with all the superb outside backs that have been produced but the game has never been as well balanced with legends in both hemispheres as it was back then.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "It wasn't a shellacking in that 3rd test but they were well beaten in the end 14-0.

They were closer in 1992 down under. Lost the 1st Test 6-22, won the 2nd Test 33-10 (masterminded by Schofield) and were edged out in the decider 16-10 (another great Schofield performance). I still haven't forgotten ET's try-saving tackle on Martin Offiah.

Since Schofield's international retirement, we've been nowhere near to beating the Australians in an Ashes Series or any other tournament for that matter. In fact, since Schofield's retirement, we've endured the heaviest defeats in our international history, like 64-10, 44-4, 52-4, 46-16... etc... Peacock played in all of those.'"

I agree we were close in 92. Still a 2-1 series defeat however you cut it. How many of those have there been since 1992? In fact 2-1 to Australia was the result of 5 consecutive Ashes series betweebn1988 and 2001 wasn't it?

Schofield won 1 series against the Kiwis didn't he, just like Burrow who won man of the series?

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Quote: G1 "I agree we were close in 92. Still a 2-1 series defeat however you cut it. How many of those have there been since 1992? In fact 2-1 to Australia was the result of 5 consecutive Ashes series betweebn1988 and 2001 wasn't it?

Schofield won 1 series against the Kiwis didn't he, just like Burrow who won man of the series?'"


New to this thread but I suspect some anti Schofield bias and some pro Burrow blinkers. icon_biggrin.gif

Schofield was in possession of far more skills than the still redoubtable little fella you champion. Schofield was a pleasure to watch and kept me coming to Headingley more than any other. The fact that Kirke for example has gained more winners medals than one of the games's legends is one of the cruel ironies of sport.

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Quote: nantwichexile "New to this thread but I suspect some anti Schofield bias and some pro Burrow blinkers. How can there be bias in the cold hard facts I posted?

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Quote: G1 "How can there be bias in the cold hard facts I posted?'"


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schoey was a world class poacher centre
was he an international class stand off , not sure

was the 93 semi against widnes rumours abounded about dressing room fights

he may be a rent a gob but hardly controversial to say the present side is too old and playing e. The wigan side is not as class as past ones but very well coached.

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Quote: G1 "I agree we were close in 92. Still a 2-1 series defeat however you cut it. How many of those have there been since 1992? In fact 2-1 to Australia was the result of 5 consecutive Ashes series betweebn1988 and 2001 wasn't it?

Schofield won 1 series against the Kiwis didn't he, just like Burrow who won man of the series?'"


Against NZ, Schofield won 2 (1990 and 1993) and drew two (1985 and 1992). GB 'won' both of the drawn series on aggregate! He missed 1989's series win through injury.

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Quote: doc-rhino "
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Seriously?!

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Quote: G1 "How can there be bias in the cold hard facts I posted?'"


I distinctly recall Schofield taking a lead role at stand-off and as tour vice-captain to Mike Gregory in New Zealand in 1990 (a tour beset with GB withdrawals as certain players didn't appear to fancy it or the PNG leg that preceded it) Schofield either scoring or having a hand in almost all the test tries scored. Gregory and Schofield were IMO the outstanding players on that tour. Either would have been deserving of a man of the series award if it existed.

I also recall him lifting a trophy at Headingley after another series win V New Zealand. I didn't appreciate all the bling on show but each to their own. IIRC the third test was marked by a try in the dressing room corner by a young Andy Farrell, possibly on debut.

Open to correction though as I'm the first to admit the International memories are somewhat less reliable than the Leeds ones.

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