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Quote: Omar Little "Is it really fair to class Millard as a poor signing - he was a short time signing filling a gap after Dunneman left and Diskin got injured IIRC. I thought he did a reasonable if unspectacular job.'"


He was dire.

Was solid as a rock for Widnes and Broncos but simply didn't produce the goods for us. I imagine he was brought it for his old-head, he was around 30 when we signed him. One to forget. I try to.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "GH's record of overseas signings has been very mixed. On the plus side there's the likes of Luati'iti, Leuluai, Webb and (eventually) Buderus. On the downside you could have the likes of Cross, Eastwood, Hauraki, Millard and Mark O'Neill. The common thread across our recent failures, Eastwood apart, has been paying peanuts and signing monkeys.'"

The number 15 curse in full evidence

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lunt to sign permanent mcshane off to hull kr

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Quote: thebloodbath "He was dire.

Was solid as a rock for Widnes and Broncos but simply didn't produce the goods for us. I imagine he was brought it for his old-head, he was around 30 when we signed him. One to forget. I try to.'"


The only thing I really remember him for is scoring a try from dummy half in a game at Wigan - I think we were something like 16-0 down at half time and his try sparked a 2nd half comeback win. Beyond that, I don't really remember him doing much, but as has already been said he was only really a stop gap signing, so I don't really think much was expected.

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Quote: HyperbolicRhino "The only thing I really remember him for is scoring a try from dummy half in a game at Wigan - I think we were something like 16-0 down at half time and his try sparked a 2nd half comeback win. Beyond that, I don't really remember him doing much, but as has already been said he was only really a stop gap signing, so I don't really think much was expected.'"

Ahh that was a great 2nd half comeback in the Pie-Dome we won 24-16 i believe with Sinny amongst the try scorers in that awful silver/grey kit!

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Quote: rhinoms "Ahh that was a great 2nd half comeback in the Pie-Dome we won 24-16 i believe with Sinny amongst the try scorers in that awful silver/grey kit!'"


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Quote: time will tell "lunt to sign permanent kirke off to hull kr'"


True ? Got to hope so. icon_wink.gif

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The thing with overseas players - whether they're based in England or direct from the NRL - is that no club ought to be signing anyone who is "OK" at best. Going back to 2000 and looking at successes/failures, I'd say:

2000 - Barnhill, Bell, Mackay - 1/2 at best with 1 lucky find for 10 games, 1 huge disappointment and 1 sadly injured early (so excluding Bell from the numbers).
2001 - Carroll, Clyde, Mullins, Mears, Mercer - 1/4 (won't count Mercer who was previously a great player for Leeds). Carroll was great first year, poor the next, and Mears was a sook.
2002 - Adamson, Vowles, Walker, Poching - 0/4. I warned people Ben Walker was cr*p before he signed, and he was. Vowles was average at best, and Adamson a big-talking, walking example of a massively overrated player.
2003 - Dunemann, Furner, McKenna - 3/3. Always thought Dunemann was a very useful player to have around.
2004 - Ali, Bai - 2/2 Ali certainly the best overseas signing by Leeds in the modern era.
2006 - Donald, Millard, O'Neill, Toopi - 2/4 being generous to Toopi who was solid if a shadow of his former self.
2007 - Leuluai, Webb - 2/2 excellent.
2009 - Buderus - 1/1 questionable rationale but a class player
2010 - Delaney, Eastwood - being generous, a flukey 1/2 given that Delaney was originally signed as a centre. I don't think there was any 'bad luck' involved in the Eastwood signing - he came purely for the money (which he admitted in an interview the day he signed for Leeds) and should never have been asked to honour his deal when it became clear he really didn't want to be in England well before he arrived.
2011 - Cross, Hauraki - 0/2 so far, although Hauraki will hopeully become a better player, and possibly worth a punt given his performances at the Crusaders.

So a success rate I'd argue somewhere around 50%, given my initial criteria of being absolutely pointless signings if they are just making up the numbers. I've no idea how that compares to other sides - I wouldn't be at all surprised if most clubs are at about the same level.

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Another "strong" rumour binned. Next.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "The thing with overseas players - whether they're based in England or direct from the NRL - is that no club ought to be signing anyone who is "OK" at best. Going back to 2000 and looking at successes/failures, I'd say
I can't believe you didn't rate Poching as a good signing. Other than that pretty accurate

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Yep I'd agree with that except for Poching & Adamson. I think both added much needed bite and go-forward in the second row.

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Quote: Him "Yep I'd agree with that except for Poching & Adamson. I think both added much needed bite and go-forward in the second row.'"


Agree about Poching. IMO Adamson started well at Leeds but his ego seemed to get the better of him.

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If we managed to sign Taylor from HKR as a replacement for Kylie I'd be happy.

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