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Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so
spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/
spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/
Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so
spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/
spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/


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Grayson potted

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Crazy decision. I can see that this has been coming for a while, but recently form had picked up a bit.
The new man in hasn't much chance to change things around, apart from the loan market (which seems to be all Leeds used anyway recently).

If they were going to sack him, surely beginning of Jan, on the back of three defeats in a row and with a full transfer window to do deals in would have been better.

Or would the sceptic in me say this is Bates trying to deflect some attention from himself. I understand he got a bit of heat from the fans last night

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Quote: The Eagle "Or would the sceptic in me say this is Bates trying to deflect some attention from himself. I understand he got a bit of heat from the fans last night'"


Where've you been for the last 7 years ? There's been anti-Bates feeling from the majority of the fans since the day he took over.

The right decision IMO.

He's done well for us has Grayson, but he'd never of got us promoted in a month of Sundays. Good luck to the bloke for the future.

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Quote: LS24 Rhino "

Where've you been for the last 7 years ? There's been anti-Bates feeling from the majority of the fans since the day he took over.

The right decision IMO.

He's done well for us has Grayson, but he'd never of got us promoted in a month of Sundays. Good luck to the bloke for the future.'"


Observing from afar. What I meant was that the Anti-Bates hatred (way OTT IMO) has stepped up a few notches recently

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Quote: LS24 Rhino "Or would the sceptic in me say this is Bates trying to deflect some attention from himself. I understand he got a bit of heat from the fans last night'"


Where've you been for the last 7 years ? There's been anti-Bates feeling from the majority of the fans since the day he took over.

The right decision IMO.

He's done well for us has Grayson, but he'd never of got us promoted in a month of Sundays. Good luck to the bloke for the future.'"



On your second point, I agree. Nice guy, got us out of League 1, and a win against Man Utd, but not good enough to go further. I know he's despised by nearly everyone, but I see Warnock has been mentioned, and he would do well at ER. We would then truely be the most hated club in the land, by some distance, having the holy trinity of Chairman, Manager and Fans

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I think people genuinely wanted Grayson to do well. However it has become obvious he isn't up to the job. It was time for a change

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Quote: The Eagle "On your second point, I agree. Nice guy, got us out of League 1, and a win against Man Utd, but not good enough to go further. I know he's despised by nearly everyone, but I see Warnock has been mentioned, and he would do well at ER. We would then truely be the most hated club in the land, by some distance, having the holy trinity of Chairman, Manager and Fans'"


True. But we'd never be the most hated club in the Premier League.

Having said that, incompetent chancer Steve Bruce would be an even worse appointment.

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Quote: craigizzard "On your second point, I agree. Nice guy, got us out of League 1, and a win against Man Utd, but not good enough to go further. I know he's despised by nearly everyone, but I see Warnock has been mentioned, and he would do well at ER. We would then truely be the most hated club in the land, by some distance, having the holy trinity of Chairman, Manager and Fans'"


True. But we'd never be the most hated club in the Premier League.

Having said that, incompetent chancer Steve Bruce would be an even worse appointment.'"

We would, just not for that long if most of his managerial career is anything to go by

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We should try and get Chris Houghton (sp) from Birmingham, doubt he'll come here but he'd be ideal.

Di Matteo has also been linked, but I hear Bates already offered him the job after the Burnley game but he turned it down.

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Feel sorry for him really but I think it's time he went. We seemed to go for him as he knew how to get a club out of league 1, which he did.
I've heard a lot of fans against Warnock but I think he would be a decent appointment, in the same vein as Grayson, being that he knows how to get teams out of the league we are in. He would also hopefully give us a bit of nastiness, which I think we need badly.
Seems like all this media attention is aimed Bates which will hopefully put some pressure on him, Harvey etc.
The reasons the club have given which have been stated on Sky Sports News are laughable, basically confirming there isn't going to be any investment so we need someone to get this squad (which is weaker than last year) to overperform massively.

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Grayson's position became untenable yesterday IMO, with the statement regarding O'Brien that he was now available for selection again . As Grayson had stated that O'Brien was finished at Leeds after his refusal to play. IMO Grayson should have got the facts right before opening is gob.
Then the manner of the result last night just finished him off.

Let's hope whoever comes in can get the team playing attractive winning football.

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I alluded to the o'brien affair a few weeks back. Graysons treatment of him was disgraceful and he lost the dressing room then. Funny how o'briens return and his dropping of legal action has coincided with graysons sacking

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Quote: The Eagle "Crazy decision. I can see that this has been coming for a while, but recently form had picked up a bit.
The new man in hasn't much chance to change things around, apart from the loan market (which seems to be all Leeds used anyway recently).

If they were going to sack him, surely beginning of Jan, on the back of three defeats in a row and with a full transfer window to do deals in would have been better.

Or would the sceptic in me say this is Bates trying to deflect some attention from himself. I understand he got a bit of heat from the fans last night'"


Pure scapegoat...classic Bates.

The timing is a joke the day after the transfer window closes - just in case a new man wanted to spend any of Bates precious money

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Quote: tad rhino "I alluded to the o'brien affair a few weeks back. Graysons treatment of him was disgraceful and he lost the dressing room then. Funny how o'briens return and his dropping of legal action has coincided with graysons sacking'"


It does smack of Grayson sticking his neck out or speaking out to the press without engaging his brain.

The timing is interesting isn't it - coincided but not a coincidence perhaps!

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