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icons15f0_files/4862-863FALH-msnicons.jpg Temptation, greets you like your naughty mate,
The one that used to get you in bother,
But one that you could never bring yourself to hate.:icons15f0_files/4862-863FALH-msnicons.jpg |
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| P.S.
Not Noble please Gary. The sides he coaches are always boring biff ballers, and he hates this club with a passion.
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid you!
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| Quote: Matt23 "Maybe we might have a decent attacking structure. The squad may be on the slide player by player but certainly not to the extent that it has been showing this season. We are completely clueless and have been all year. It's time for a change IMO.'"
So are you saying our players was always clueless and the results were all just down to a good coach?
Missed tackles, knock on's, forward passes and lack of pace are surely down to the players. JJB, Buderus and Sinfield (for most of the time) have played very well as have Burgess, Hardaker, BJB with big improvement from McShane and Watkins. Are you saying these are not doing what the coach wants yet all the bad performers are?
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| Individual performances will always vary but how the team perform as a collective falls squarely under the remit of the coach. It is quite clear that some coaches are capable of getting their teams to perform beyond the sum of their individual parts, but Brian Mac is not in this category. I suspect the players are going out and working hard but they need to be well-prepared, motivated & have a structured plan. Errors tend to occur when things aren't going well for the team and individuals are under pressure - if the team is poorly coached there will be more individual errors, it is that simple.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: A-Fire-Inside "Hello Gareth...
No, I don't remember 1988-89
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "How, Gareth?
What would they have done differently to drag better performances out of the likes of Webb, Bailey, Lauitiiti etc - to name just three of those players who are clearly on the slide?'"
Coached them better? I know that simplistic but isn't it obvious? If you're asking for te various methods involved then if I knew I'd obviously be doing it, or telling Mcdermott how to do it.
Andy Hay, Marvin Golden, Jamie Mathiou (spit), Paul Sterling and many others were average players coached well about their limits by Graham Murray.
Quins regressed each season under McDermott. Leeds like like they will regress on last year. He's a coach that takes teams backwards. I am sure they will be a plethora of reasons/excuses why but nevertheless there's a bad small about huim and it's starting to stick. Some coaches take jobs and their teams kick on (Murray. Smith.Mclennan even). Then there's McDermott.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "So are you saying our players was always clueless and the results were all just down to a good coach?
Missed tackles, knock on's, forward passes and lack of pace are surely down to the players. JJB, Buderus and Sinfield (for most of the time) have played very well as have Burgess, Hardaker, BJB with big improvement from McShane and Watkins. Are you saying these are not doing what the coach wants yet all the bad performers are?'"
By extending this logic only a little further, you could save money by just not having a coach at all. A team with no overall structure and game plan will rapidly become a beaten team, and a demoralised team, and the errors will come.
If that structure and cohesion are not the coach's job, then what exactly is the coach's job.
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| McDermott and Lowes may well be your problem.
Isn't a bigger problem the man who appointed them?
Everyone saw what McD did at Quins, they were bottom of the league contenders all season.
Did anyone at Leeds seriously think McD and Lowes would coach your team (or any team) into the top four?
Absolutely no chance!
The appointment of McDermott and Lowes was dreadful and your club are now reaping the consequencies.
Hetherington is the man responsible, no one else.
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| Quote: Matt23 "P.S.
Not Noble please Gary. The sides he coaches are always boring biff ballers, and he hates this club with a passion.'"
If he hates the club, why did he admit - off the record - that he wanted the Leeds job? Whether or not he would have got it, I don't know - but he's certainly admitted to wanting a crack at it before....
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| Quote: G1 "Too much ecstacy?'"
Too young mate, too young
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| Quote: G1 "Colour me deluded then.
Maybe not champions but any three of those would have acheived far "better" with this squad of players.'"
What shade is deluded? If it's poop brown then knock yourself out pal and you colour yourself from head to toe.
I'll just call you deluded!
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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I'll just call you'"
Save yourself the cost of the call. I've no need for a stalker thank you.
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| Quote: G1 "Save yourself the cost of the call. I've no need for a stalker thank you.'"
Big bite.........huge bite!
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid you!
- Winston Churchill:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40515.jpg |
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| Quote: El Diablo "By extending this logic only a little further, you could save money by just not having a coach at all. A team with no overall structure and game plan will rapidly become a beaten team, and a demoralised team, and the errors will come.
If that structure and cohesion are not the coach's job, then what exactly is the coach's job.'"
No I am not saying that the coaches job is not important. I am saying that the evidence on the field is of some players playing well with structure while others are clearly past it physically and mentally and not able to maintain any structure or game plan for the full 80. To ignore this and put it all down to the coach is to miss the crucial problem we have.
I too am not happy with McD or his strange selections but I do think a change of coach will not solve the problems of a squad that is now 5th best in SL and hampered with 2 of its best players not fully fit yet.
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| i think a coach would make a huge difference. look at wigan, giants,wolves and catalans to see that
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| Quote: G1 "Colour me deluded then.
Maybe not champions but any three of those would have acheived far "better" with this squad of players.'"
Well If you are not deluded then I must be a psychic then?
I got some stick off you and others at start of last season and more so on the announcement of the "magnificent seven" for stating what would happen this season, and been proved exactly spot on correct right now. How is that when McDermott wasn't even announced as assistant coach at that point, let alone head coach?
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