that's a Saints fan from a border village....

Overall, i thought the game last night was good for the concept (which was rubbish) (dont know why i'm posting this on the Rhino's forum)...

Sam Tomkins is a good player, but last season did his reputation no favours at all. Convincing enough that even the wife couldn't see him doing anything wrong, but certainly did when I pointed out the hand trapping. Respect that you've seen little of Sam this season (i've no doubt you don't go to Warriors home or Away games unless we're playing you), either someone's had words, or he's watched back and though "that aint good", because I haven't seen any of it this season yet. He played effectively last night, but listen back to what Eddie & Stevo were saying in respect to who was calling the field for The Exiles. Who worse to call the shots against you than one of your very close team mates (T.Leuluai). I'll admit, he does have a hunger to score, and perhaps that is his weakness, he'll run the line looking for a gap rather than passing or kicking the ball to make play. At both club level and country level, this happens, and probably lost us an opportunity or two last night, and has certainly cost Wigan an opportunity or two, but he's young and he's time to develop yet. What I cannot condone is people cheering at rough tackles which can potentially cause career ending injuries (twice last night he was dumped on his face). I'm not saying it's purely Leeds fans, there's isn't a club in SuperLeague who's fans don't hate Sam Tomkins, but there isn't a fan in SuperLeague who's fans wouldn't like him in their team! Danny McGuire is a slightly different story as his injury against us was obtained whilst taking Pat Richards off the ball illegally (hence the penalty kick), compounded by the shaking of the posts by one of the Leeds players. Not saying anyone was right to cheer (personally I didn't), but an injury obtained whilst doing something stupid or illegal is "more deserved" than an injury just because you don't like him.

In respect to captaincy, no offence but I think both coaches made a mistake with their choices of Buderus and Peacock purely down to the fact that they're club team mates, that is going to almost certainly have an impact on their on field play. Bananaman confiding in Peacock was just silly, there's a lot of guys in the England team who are more experienced than Peacock, captain at club level and/or have captained the England International side. A captain, for me, has to stand out and be the great organiser on the field... I can't say I noticed between Peacock being on the field, or off it.

I can't say I watched last night's game thinking "smash em, cave their heads in", because Club over Country, I didnt want any injuries out of the game, but I did watch it thinking, in regards to a number of players, "jesus, that's some talent there".

Internationals are a time to embrace the talent we have in our country and support them, not a time to boo them and defame them. Let's face it, England will always be the under-dogs in International RL, but with the right coach, and the right group of people, and the right game play in place, there's no reason why we couldn't come out on top (or nearly).

As far as Internationals are concerned, give me the best players from any club. As far as Club is concerned, we hate Leeds.

Adrian Morley aside , care to name them ?

I wish I'd gone and joined in. It was like the 1994 (I think) GB game against France at HQ, when we booed Shaun Edwards mercilessly. And GB won that game by 70 points, I think. It was tremendous fun.

Eric Van Brussel scored France's only try, IIRC. Oddly, I can remember that, but could only guess at GB's scorers.

There is no logic to this statement - what's the club thing got to do with it exactly??? Are you saying the coaches shouldn't have been able to pick captains from the same club for some bizarre reason? Who should have had first go?

We can argue that Peacock should or shouldn't have been picked given where he is in his comeback but Buderus, ex-Australia and ex-NSW captain, was the obvious and only sensible choice to captain the Exiles.

Most worryingly, his vote is worth the same as yours or mine.

You are clutching at straws if you think any of the above named have more experience at the top level than Peacock .

I never said that Buderus was a bad choice, i said that the two of them together was a bad choice. The club thing is purely down to the fact that they know eachother's thoughts and plays. Any advantage that would've been gained is counteracted when both captains are from the same team.

It also makes it less of a realistic "international".

Wow, we're ducks?

How did he cost us the game?

O'loughlin charged outwide allowing the gap to open up!

Not only booing ... There were various allegations of nocturnal activities that might involve toilet tissue to mop it up, sung at Edwards most of the night At one point, he had the timerity to 'applaud' the SS, where upon the floodgates of 'stick' opened Compared to that, what our banana-booted friend got was small beer.

IIRC, at that game in 1994, 'Sprouts' got the biggest cheer of the night .... Was it him or the other winger, Cyrille Pons ?

I'm not condoning what went on and wasn't booing myself, but it's not the first time this sort of thing has gone on and its not just at Leeds.

For the record, whilst there were Leeds fans in the SS, there were fans of many other clubs including Wigan and a sizeable Hull FC contingent. Given where most of the singing comes from at Leeds games, to me the booing seemed to come from elsewhere (like down the sides) rather than at the back.

Classic Tomkins

to be expected really, leeds fans are all the same

BBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Saw it on BBC the other week, He tried to wrap his legs around Ah Van but wasn't strong enough, he got dumped and looked silly. He also kept running off the mark to make out he was being held at the PTB, so much so that he got instructed by the ref to stop it.

Great thread lads, nice to see Sams rattled your cages boo him all you want - he will answer back on the pitch next time he plays your clubs.